Post by djnyr on Jul 5, 2022 23:23:11 GMT
Mesterius: Once again, excellent point about the errors surrounding the term "pilot episode." I'll take pains to avoid that particular imprecision in the future. As for whether "I Only Have Ice for You" was the pilot in the true sense of the word, given the expense involved in the animation process, I doubt that any episode would have been animated before the executives gave the show as a whole the greenlight, and I also am doubtful that Magon and his crew would have solicited a script from a freelancer (Rosa) for a show that was still unsold (usually, the showrunners prepare the pilot themselves). Based on interviews with Magon, I get the impression that Talespin was sold to the execs through concept art and story pitches, not a finished episode. "Ice" was the first Talespin episode ever aired, though, being used to kick off the Disney Channel set of "preview" episodes, which may explain why takes pains to establish Baloo, Becky, and Don Karnage so effectively.
I do intend to cover the full-length movie version of "Plunder and Lightning"; I agree that it's definitely superior to the TV version, with extra scenes and bits of business (Karnage insolently snatching a drink at Louie's, the extended version of Kit's self-revelatory scene in the back of the Sea Duck, etc.) that flesh out the characters and make "Plunder" feel like a full-fledged movie, with a movie's pacing, rather than a more abbreviated TV episode. Cutting "Home is where the Heart Is" particularly damages the TV version; the sequence isn't just a musical number, but a key character-establishing moment for both Rebecca and Kit, and also the dramatic counterpoint to Baloo's "I'm Gone" song earlier in the show. Magon has frequently expressed his frustration with the fact that this scene was removed.
Matilda: Yes, the moments with the stocking and the nail file during the scavenger hunt did put me in mind of some of the absurd short Woodchuck/Chickadee stories from Western in the 1970s; Lewald and Talkington threw something of a messaging boomerang with those bits. Like Baloo immediately offering to give up his coveted Sea Duck repurchase fund to free the whale in the same writers' "All's Whale that Ends Whale", Becky's repurposing of vanity items as tools also doesn't ring true to the character--the Becky we know would read up thoroughly on the subject of scavenger hunting and would probably over-prepare herself by procuring every potentially necessary tool under the sun.
I do intend to cover the full-length movie version of "Plunder and Lightning"; I agree that it's definitely superior to the TV version, with extra scenes and bits of business (Karnage insolently snatching a drink at Louie's, the extended version of Kit's self-revelatory scene in the back of the Sea Duck, etc.) that flesh out the characters and make "Plunder" feel like a full-fledged movie, with a movie's pacing, rather than a more abbreviated TV episode. Cutting "Home is where the Heart Is" particularly damages the TV version; the sequence isn't just a musical number, but a key character-establishing moment for both Rebecca and Kit, and also the dramatic counterpoint to Baloo's "I'm Gone" song earlier in the show. Magon has frequently expressed his frustration with the fact that this scene was removed.
Matilda: Yes, the moments with the stocking and the nail file during the scavenger hunt did put me in mind of some of the absurd short Woodchuck/Chickadee stories from Western in the 1970s; Lewald and Talkington threw something of a messaging boomerang with those bits. Like Baloo immediately offering to give up his coveted Sea Duck repurchase fund to free the whale in the same writers' "All's Whale that Ends Whale", Becky's repurposing of vanity items as tools also doesn't ring true to the character--the Becky we know would read up thoroughly on the subject of scavenger hunting and would probably over-prepare herself by procuring every potentially necessary tool under the sun.