I am open to read and enjoy Disney comics by any artist, but my headcanon consists of Don Rosa’s stories and the Barks stories that are directly referenced by him plus a few more.
I just changed my headcanon. It's not all of Rosa, but some of Rosa. Only the stories that I really care for definitely "happened". As for the others, I'm agnostic - maybe they happened, maybe they didn't happen. Heck, maybe they happened but in a slightly different way that I like better.
I am open to read and enjoy Disney comics by any artist, but my headcanon consists of Don Rosa’s stories and the Barks stories that are directly referenced by him plus a few more.
I just changed my headcanon. It's not all of Rosa, but some of Rosa. Only the stories that I really care for definitely "happened". As for the others, I'm agnostic - maybe they happened, maybe they didn't happen. Heck, maybe they happened but in a slightly different way that I like better.
Which Rosa stories have been demoted from headcanon status?
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What is everyone else's head canon on what happened to Quackmore, Hortense, Della and Mr. Duck? I would really like to hear your thought's on what happened to Mr. Duck, was he the brother of Daisy? Did he die from a fire cracker explosion or during WWII? Did he and Della die or abandon their children? Is he Cosmo Duck, and he and Della travelled into space? Or could he be in Tralla La under the name Tsamjah Phee?
Sorry if there is already another thread on this, I just would like to hear your theories and explanations.
What is everyone else's head canon on what happened to Quackmore, Hortense, Della and Mr. Duck? I would really like to hear your thought's on what happened to Mr. Duck, was he the brother of Daisy? Did he die from a fire cracker explosion or during WWII? Did he and Della die or abandon their children? Is he Cosmo Duck, and he and Della travelled into space? Or could he be in Tralla La under the name Tsamjah Phee?
Sorry if there is already another thread on this, I just would like to hear your theories and explanations.
Quackmore: Donald claims that his father was a pilot in Donald Gets Drafted. I interpret this as Quackmore being a WWI fighter pilot, and I like the idea of him participating (and dying) in WWII as well.
Hortense: In Best Christmas, Donald and the kids travel to HDL's grandmother to celebrate Christmas. However, as this grandmother doesn't live on a farm and has a different design from Grandma Elvira, my head-canon is that this grandmother is in fact Hortense. She probably died sometime in between Best Christmas and Christmas on Bear Mountain.
Della: In 80 jaar and DuckTales 2017, we learn that Della was an aeroplane pilot (just like Papa Quackmore) and also an astronaut. I think her going to space is stupid, but I like her being a pilot. She probably crashed or got lost somewhere far away (in Tralla La, perchance?) while HDL were staying at Donald's. I don't like the idea of her intentionally abandoning the triplets.
HDL's father: His behind got blown up by the kids, but I don't think that killed him. If it did, HDL would be plagued by guilt constantly, and yet we have never seen any sign of this. Also worth noting is that HDL's parents might not have been married - HDL share a surname with Della, but not necessarily with their daddy. If he gets out of the hospital at a time when Della is missing and the kids are staying with their uncle, I can see him just abandoning the family all together. Also, I do not think that he is High Lama Tsamjah Phee. The Lama is super-old and scrunkly - older than Scrooge even. Also also, I don't like him being Cosmo Duck either. If I recall correctly, Cosmo was established as being one of Donald's cousins. The Cosmo-story is about a Duck family gathering, but if he were Della's husband he would only have married into the Duck family. Cosmo being Donald's brother-in-law is never brought up. I think it would be far more interesting if HDL's father was an original character who was written for that specific role instead. Also also also, I think that the idea of him being Daisy's brother is unnecessary. Rosa came up with this idea to explain why HDL sometimes refer to Daisy as "Aunt Daisy". However, that does not have to be a genealogical term. It could simply be a term of respect, or due to the fact that she is their uncle's girlfriend. Making HDL's father Daisy's brother makes the universe feel smaller. Then there's the fact that she should be aware of his whereabouts, but that has never been brought up.
Quackmore: Donald claims that his father was a pilot in Donald Gets Drafted. I interpret this as Quackmore being a WWI fighter pilot, and I like the idea of him participating (and dying) in WWII as well.
Wouldn't he have been a bit too old for that? With a birthdate of 1875-1880, he would have been between 61 and 66 when the US joined WW2 in December 1941. According to Google, only men up to the age of 45 got drafted, and the oldest American fighter pilots were in their late thirties.
I was going to say that he could have died in WW1 instead, but then I remembered that he is alive and well in ca. 1930 in L&T Chapter 11.
I just changed my headcanon. It's not all of Rosa, but some of Rosa. Only the stories that I really care for definitely "happened". As for the others, I'm agnostic - maybe they happened, maybe they didn't happen. Heck, maybe they happened but in a slightly different way that I like better.
Which Rosa stories have been demoted from headcanon status?
In a sense, most of them. But that makes it sound more radical than it really is. If you care for the long answer: I went back to working on my timeline project a few days ago, in which I was trying to fit all Rosa stories and all Barks stories directly referenced by Rosa in a 1940s/50s timeframe. While getting hung up on some problem I realized that I don’t actually care when exactly every single Rosa story takes place. But I still find it fun to place some stories on a temporal axis, especially (but not exclusively) those that I perceive to be relevant for Scrooge’s character arc. So I compiled a list of 25 Rosa stories that are essential to me plus the Barks stories that they reference, and now I’m working only them into a timeline. The other Rosa stories are not necessarily demoted from headcanon status, but I don’t care when they take place, and, what's crucial: it doesn't matter if they contradict my timeline. For example, I have „Last Sled to Dawson“ taking place in 1954 now (as was originally intended by Rosa), which wouldn’t be possible if I had to work „A Little Something Special“ into my timeline as well. In fact, „A Little Something Special“ is maybe the only Rosa story so far that I would go so far as to call „demoted from headcanon status“. It was never very dear to my heart, and the fact that it has to take place in 1952 always caused problems in my original timeline project.
Okay, it's not the only one - "From Duckburg to Lillehammer" was never part of my headcanon, because I don't like the idea of Duckburg sending its own athletes to the Olympics. In my headcanon Duckburg is not an independent city state, even though I know there's Barksian precedent for that.
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What is everyone else's head canon on what happened to Quackmore, Hortense, Della and Mr. Duck? I would really like to hear your thought's on what happened to Mr. Duck, was he the brother of Daisy? Did he die from a fire cracker explosion or during WWII? Did he and Della die or abandon their children? Is he Cosmo Duck, and he and Della travelled into space? Or could he be in Tralla La under the name Tsamjah Phee?
Sorry if there is already another thread on this, I just would like to hear your theories and explanations.
Quackmore: Donald claims that his father was a pilot in Donald Gets Drafted. I interpret this as Quackmore being a WWI fighter pilot, and I like the idea of him participating (and dying) in WWII as well.
Hortense: In Best Christmas, Donald and the kids travel to HDL's grandmother to celebrate Christmas. However, as this grandmother doesn't live on a farm and has a different design from Grandma Elvira, my head-canon is that this grandmother is in fact Hortense. She probably died sometime in between Best Christmas and Christmas on Bear Mountain.
Della: In 80 jaar and DuckTales 2017, we learn that Della was an aeroplane pilot (just like Papa Quackmore) and also an astronaut. I think her going to space is stupid, but I like her being a pilot. She probably crashed or got lost somewhere far away (in Tralla La, perchance?) while HDL were staying at Donald's. I don't like the idea of her intentionally abandoning the triplets.
HDL's father: His behind got blown up by the kids, but I don't think that killed him. If it did, HDL would be plagued by guilt constantly, and yet we have never seen any sign of this. Also worth noting is that HDL's parents might not have been married - HDL share a surname with Della, but not necessarily with their daddy. If he gets out of the hospital at a time when Della is missing and the kids are staying with their uncle, I can see him just abandoning the family all together. Also, I do not think that he is High Lama Tsamjah Phee. The Lama is super-old and scrunkly - older than Scrooge even. Also also, I don't like him being Cosmo Duck either. If I recall correctly, Cosmo was established as being one of Donald's cousins. The Cosmo-story is about a Duck family gathering, but if he were Della's husband he would only have married into the Duck family. Cosmo being Donald's brother-in-law is never brought up. I think it would be far more interesting if HDL's father was an original character who was written for that specific role instead. Also also also, I think that the idea of him being Daisy's brother is unnecessary. Rosa came up with this idea to explain why HDL sometimes refer to Daisy as "Aunt Daisy". However, that does not have to be a genealogical term. It could simply be a term of respect, or due to the fact that she is their uncle's girlfriend. Making HDL's father Daisy's brother makes the universe feel smaller. Then there's the fact that she should be aware of his whereabouts, but that has never been brought up.
That is very interesting, here are my potential theories:
Quackmore Duck and Hortense McDuck: Donald and Della's parents die shortly after Scrooge's falling out with his family, Hortense tells Scrooge he will never see them again, and she was right. I assume they die in an accident, I would guess maybe since Quackmore was later a pilot, that he could have died with her, similar to how Princess Cecilie of Greece and Denmark died with her husband in a plane crash. This tragedy leads Donald and Della to be raised by their paternal grandparents, Grandma is now a mother figure to Donald, and he treats her more of a mother than his grandmother. Donald is also partly raised by his Aunt Matilda, given how she treats him in A Letter From Home, I guess she could have married Goostave Gander, after Daphne died or they divorced. So Donald and Gladstone were closely raised in childhood, even though they were cousins. Given how throughout history many young children were sometimes raised by their grandparents who were their parental figures, this makes sense for Donald and Grandma.
Mr. Duck: I believe there are three theories as to what happened to him after the firecracker explosion...
He was in the military, possibly serving in WWII. He became captured and possibly lives now in Brutopia or Tralla La, possibly with Della, however it is possible he is still captured or is somewhere looking for his family, as an adventurer.
Della married a man who was a royal, I have heard this theory, that the three boy's father is a foreign leader or monarch. Maybe Huey, Dewey, and Louie become Princes or Kings later, and become leaders themselves. It would be interesting to see them becoming skilled Junior Woodchucks and later becoming Kings. Maybe he could be the Duke of Baloni, or related to him.
He was a man who had a relationship with Della (whether it was consetual or not), and she conceived the three triplets, they were illegitimate, which was uncommon for the 1940s, but it did happen. He later possibly just abandoned his family, and moved away or is still in Duckburg.
Della Duck: I don't believe she abandoned her family, I think she was a pilot, who became a world traveller, kind of like her brother as a sailor. Maybe she went looking for her husband after he went lost in Tralla La? Since she is partly based on Amelia Earhart, I think she could have crashed some where in the world, maybe Tralla La, as that is the place hinted where Huey, Dewey, and Louie's parents might be.
I also thought, that maybe he could be working for one of Scrooge's enemies, or he could be related to Glomgold or Rockerduck, wouldn't that be interesting if HDL were the nephews of the richest ducks in the world? Maybe some day they would inherit both of their great-uncle's wealth. Wouldn't that be a plot twist.
What is everyone else's head canon on what happened to Quackmore, Hortense, Della and Mr. Duck? I would really like to hear your thought's on what happened to Mr. Duck, was he the brother of Daisy? Did he die from a fire cracker explosion or during WWII? Did he and Della die or abandon their children? Is he Cosmo Duck, and he and Della travelled into space? Or could he be in Tralla La under the name Tsamjah Phee?
Sorry if there is already another thread on this, I just would like to hear your theories and explanations.
It is firmly in my headcanon that Quackmore and Hortense raised Donald and Della, and that they did not die until D&D were grown or nearly grown. Partly that's because I think that their dying young would mean that the family had altogether too many tragedies. I didn't encounter any of the "Donald Duckling" stories where he's raised by Grandma on the farm until I was an adult, and they have no sway over me. (Besides, where is Donald's sibling who could be the triplets' parent in that scenario? We have discussed this before, and I'm not satisfied with any of the proposed answers.) Donald probably did spend time on the farm as a child. He may even have spent time there without Della, because (I imagine) Della went to Chickadees summer camp and Donald got expelled from the scouting camps. But the Donald Duckling stories show him going to school while living on the farm, so he's supposed to be there full-time--not acceptable in my headcanon. One of the reasons I was so pleased by Geradts' "Donald's First ______" series of one-pagers is that a couple of them indicate that young Donald and Della are living with their mother/parents. Nice to see my headcanon on this matter confirmed in a published story!
I don't have a clear idea about when and how Quackmore and Hortense died, other than that they didn't die until Donald and Della were at least in their late teens, more likely in their 20's. To make it more natural and less tragic, I'd prefer to think that they died separately--Quackmore died first (statistically more likely), Hortense somewhat later. I'm fine with at least Hortense living long enough to see the triplets born. I'm okay with her living longer, though I don't personally see her as the grandmother in Best Christmas--given what I know about the making of that story, I have no need to integrate that grandmother into my headcanon at all. Since Hortense and Quackmore were never mentioned in the stories set in the "present" that I grew up with, it makes most sense to me for them to have died before the triplets' living memory. Maybe Quackmore died before they were born, Hortense when they were two years old. I tend to think they both died of disease (heart disease, infectious disease, whatever), possibly stuff they could have survived if it had been the 1970's or 2000's rather than the 1940's/50's. Sad but not terribly uncommon at the time. Lots of people had both parents die by the time they (the offspring) were 30. And Donald and Della's parents were older than the average parents.
For Della and her husband, you can't avoid some sort of tragedy, since they disappear from the story at much younger ages. I'm not committed to any single theory of what happened to them. I do believe that they were married. If you pressed me to come up with a narrative, on most days I'd probably say that Della's husband disappeared when working overseas (near Tralla La?). Can't have been the Peace Corps because that's stretching the time line a little too far, but could have been some other international aid or development group. Then Della flew over there to look for him and disappeared herself. They can't be alive, because if they were found it would disrupt the family relations as I know them. So if the Tralla La folks know what happened to them, it's because they found the plane or whatever. On other days I might say that Della and her husband died together in some accident.
In any case, in my headcanon Della disappears when the boys are about five, at which point they come to live with Donald (as Della and her husband had named him as the boys' guardian in their will...that's in fact more likely, I think, if we believe with Rosa that Donald and Della were twins; normally a single brother would probably have been unlikely to have been named guardian, though I don't have evidence for that assumption!). Part of my headcanon is that the boys' trouble-making when they first came to live with Donald (in Barks ten-pagers, not just in cartoons) was a result of their grief. Grief in children can certainly manifest as misbehavior. Then they gradually settled down, in part thanks to finding a community in the Junior Woodchucks where they had surrogate fathers and where the other kids' mothers weren't around, so their orphan status was not so obvious.
I don't need HDL's father to have had the last name of Duck nor to have not married Della, because I think it's quite possible that the triplets were officially adopted by Donald and thus use his last name. I do not think that Della's husband was Daisy's brother. "Duck" is a common surname in Duckburg (my in-universe explanation), but there are only two Duck families involved for me: Donald's family (Quackmore, Elvira Duck) and Daisy's. I agree with LP that having Daisy and Della's husband be siblings makes the universe too small. As I've said before, I don't see any problem with the triplets sometimes calling Daisy "Aunt Daisy" even though she is no relation to them. In my American childhood in the 1950's and early 60's, it was quite common for children to refer to an adult friend of the family as "Aunt/Uncle Firstname" because "Mr/Mrs/Miss" seemed too formal and it was felt in many circles that it was disrespectful for children to call an adult by their first name alone. I had an "Aunt Mary" who was my grandmother's close friend.
My godson, whom I managed to hook on Disney Duck comics, decided when he was about ten--many years before Geradts' 80 jaar story and DuckTales '17--that HDL's parents had had to go on a mission to space to somehow save the planet. Rosa didn't like that because it struck him as a "silly superhero" story (as he said to me, not at all obnoxiously!, when we talked at a ComicCon), and it's not my own theory, but I was impressed that my godson came up with a theory that satisfied all his own needs: to have the parents alive, to have them unable to communicate with the boys or to return anytime soon, and to have them be decent parents who didn't just abandon their children. On that last: only the need to save the planet (or at least a whole lot of people, including one's children) could in his mind justify a parent's decision to leave the children in someone else's care for years to come.
What is everyone else's head canon on what happened to Quackmore, Hortense, Della and Mr. Duck? I would really like to hear your thought's on what happened to Mr. Duck, was he the brother of Daisy? Did he die from a fire cracker explosion or during WWII? Did he and Della die or abandon their children? Is he Cosmo Duck, and he and Della travelled into space? Or could he be in Tralla La under the name Tsamjah Phee?
Sorry if there is already another thread on this, I just would like to hear your theories and explanations.
It is firmly in my headcanon that Quackmore and Hortense raised Donald and Della, and that they did not die until D&D were grown or nearly grown. Partly that's because I think that their dying young would mean that the family had altogether too many tragedies. I didn't encounter any of the "Donald Duckling" stories where he's raised by Grandma on the farm until I was an adult, and they have no sway over me. (Besides, where is Donald's sibling who could be the triplets' parent in that scenario? We have discussed this before, and I'm not satisfied with any of the proposed answers.) Donald probably did spend time on the farm as a child. He may even have spent time there without Della, because (I imagine) Della went to Chickadees summer camp and Donald got expelled from the scouting camps. But the Donald Duckling stories show him going to school while living on the farm, so he's supposed to be there full-time--not acceptable in my headcanon. One of the reasons I was so pleased by Geradts' "Donald's First ______" series of one-pagers is that a couple of them indicate that young Donald and Della are living with their mother/parents. Nice to see my headcanon on this matter confirmed in a published story!
I don't have a clear idea about when and how Quackmore and Hortense died, other than that they didn't die until Donald and Della were at least in their late teens, more likely in their 20's. To make it more natural and less tragic, I'd prefer to think that they died separately--Quackmore died first (statistically more likely), Hortense somewhat later. I'm fine with at least Hortense living long enough to see the triplets born. I'm okay with her living longer, though I don't personally see her as the grandmother in Best Christmas--given what I know about the making of that story, I have no need to integrate that grandmother into my headcanon at all. Since Hortense and Quackmore were never mentioned in the stories set in the "present" that I grew up with, it makes most sense to me for them to have died before the triplets' living memory. Maybe Quackmore died before they were born, Hortense when they were two years old. I tend to think they both died of disease (heart disease, infectious disease, whatever), possibly stuff they could have survived if it had been the 1970's or 2000's rather than the 1940's/50's. Sad but not terribly uncommon at the time. Lots of people had both parents die by the time they (the offspring) were 30. And Donald and Della's parents were older than the average parents.
For Della and her husband, you can't avoid some sort of tragedy, since they disappear from the story at much younger ages. I'm not committed to any single theory of what happened to them. I do believe that they were married. If you pressed me to come up with a narrative, on most days I'd probably say that Della's husband disappeared when working overseas (near Tralla La?). Can't have been the Peace Corps because that's stretching the time line a little too far, but could have been some other international aid or development group. Then Della flew over there to look for him and disappeared herself. They can't be alive, because if they were found it would disrupt the family relations as I know them. So if the Tralla La folks know what happened to them, it's because they found the plane or whatever. On other days I might say that Della and her husband died together in some accident.
In any case, in my headcanon Della disappears when the boys are about five, at which point they come to live with Donald (as Della and her husband had named him as the boys' guardian in their will...that's in fact more likely, I think, if we believe with Rosa that Donald and Della were twins; normally a single brother would probably have been unlikely to have been named guardian, though I don't have evidence for that assumption!). Part of my headcanon is that the boys' trouble-making when they first came to live with Donald (in Barks ten-pagers, not just in cartoons) was a result of their grief. Grief in children can certainly manifest as misbehavior. Then they gradually settled down, in part thanks to finding a community in the Junior Woodchucks where they had surrogate fathers and where the other kids' mothers weren't around, so their orphan status was not so obvious.
I don't need HDL's father to have had the last name of Duck nor to have not married Della, because I think it's quite possible that the triplets were officially adopted by Donald and thus use his last name. I do not think that Della's husband was Daisy's brother. "Duck" is a common surname in Duckburg (my in-universe explanation), but there are only two Duck families involved for me: Donald's family (Quackmore, Elvira Duck) and Daisy's. I agree with LP that having Daisy and Della's husband be siblings makes the universe too small. As I've said before, I don't see any problem with the triplets sometimes calling Daisy "Aunt Daisy" even though she is no relation to them. In my American childhood in the 1950's and early 60's, it was quite common for children to refer to an adult friend of the family as "Aunt/Uncle Firstname" because "Mr/Mrs/Miss" seemed too formal and it was felt in many circles that it was impolite for children to call an adult by their first name alone. I had an "Aunt Mary" who was my grandmother's close friend.
My godson, whom I managed to hook on Disney Duck comics, decided when he was about ten--many years before Geradts' 80 jaar story and DuckTales '17--that HDL's parents had had to go on a mission to space to somehow save the planet. Rosa didn't like that because it struck him as a "silly superhero" story (as he said to me, not at all obnoxiously!, when we talked at a ComicCon), and it's not my own theory, but I was impressed that my godson came up with a theory that satisfied all his own needs: to have the parents alive, to have them unable to communicate with the boys or to return anytime soon, and to have them be decent parents who didn't just abandon their children. On that last: only the need to save the planet (or at least a whole lot of people, including one's children) could in his mind justify a parent's decision to leave the children in someone else's care for years to come.
Another theory I have adds on to the Amelia Earhart/Della Duck theory, maybe she was married to someone based on Charles Lindenberg, given how he never crashed his plane, he has now become infamous for his closeness to lets say "1930s Germany". Yes it is dark if he became involved with Germany in that era, but it certainly could be possible. I would assume since Lindenberg also had children with other women while he was married, that he could have left Della and her children.
As for Daisy and Mr. Duck being siblings, I don't like that theory either. Just having April, May, and June being cousins to Huey, Dewey, and Louie is not a good look for Disney, if they're supposed to be their girlfriends.
This is kind of like the discussion on what happened to Goofy's wife, and Max's mother, there really is no solid answer, but in that case I think she died, but I have a feeling that Della and her husband are still alive.
Quackmore: Donald claims that his father was a pilot in Donald Gets Drafted. I interpret this as Quackmore being a WWI fighter pilot, and I like the idea of him participating (and dying) in WWII as well.
Wouldn't he have been a bit too old for that? With a birthdate of 1875-1880, he would have been between 61 and 66 when the US joined WW2 in December 1941. According to Google, only men up to the age of 45 got drafted, and the oldest American fighter pilots were in their late thirties.
I was going to say that he could have died in WW1 instead, but then I remembered that he is alive and well in ca. 1930 in L&T Chapter 11.
You're right - he would be too old to participate in WWII. In that case, I'm not sure how I would imagine his death, but it would happen before Chistmas 1946, which is when I imagine Best Christmas takes place.
Which Rosa stories have been demoted from headcanon status?
In a sense, most of them. But that makes it sound more radical than it really is. If you care for the long answer: I went back to working on my timeline project a few days ago, in which I was trying to fit all Rosa stories and all Barks stories directly referenced by Rosa in a 1940s/50s timeframe. While getting hung up on some problem I realized that I don’t actually care when exactly every single Rosa story takes place. But I still find it fun to place some stories on a temporal axis, especially (but not exclusively) those that I perceive to be relevant for Scrooge’s character arc. So I compiled a list of 25 Rosa stories that are essential to me plus the Barks stories that they reference, and now I’m working only them into a timeline. The other Rosa stories are not necessarily demoted from headcanon status, but I don’t care when they take place, and, what's crucial: it doesn't matter if they contradict my timeline. For example, I have „Last Sled to Dawson“ taking place in 1954 now (as was originally intended by Rosa), which wouldn’t be possible if I had to work „A Little Something Special“ into my timeline as well. In fact, „A Little Something Special“ is maybe the only Rosa story so far that I would go so far as to call „demoted from headcanon status“. It was never very dear to my heart, and the fact that it has to take place in 1952 always caused problems in my original timeline project.
Okay, it's not the only one - "From Duckburg to Lillehammer" was never part of my headcanon, because I don't like the idea of Duckburg sending its own athletes to the Olympics. In my headcanon it's not an independent city state, even though I know there's Barksian precedent for that.
Ahh, so you have designed your own unique headcanon timeline! I like it! Rosa timelines are tough to deal with. Choosing your own key Rosa and Barks stories and creating your own timeline based solely on them is much less stressful!
What is everyone else's head canon on what happened to Quackmore, Hortense, Della and Mr. Duck? I would really like to hear your thought's on what happened to Mr. Duck, was he the brother of Daisy? Did he die from a fire cracker explosion or during WWII? Did he and Della die or abandon their children? Is he Cosmo Duck, and he and Della travelled into space? Or could he be in Tralla La under the name Tsamjah Phee?
Sorry if there is already another thread on this, I just would like to hear your theories and explanations.
All of this will be for my "main" headcanon, taking information primarily from 1930s-1950s sources + Rosa. My thoughts about the whereabouts of missing Duck family tree links in the other Duck universes are much less developed if even developed at all.
Quackmore - Echoing LP , Quackmore was a pilot and did die in a plane crash. I have him dying in an accident during peace time, however, while flying for the airmail service in 1934. His death further fueled Della's dreams of becoming pilot to prove that the rumors about her father's incompetence as an aviator were false.
Hortense - Hortense lived for a solid decade after Quackmore's death, witnessing the birth of her triplet grandsons. I am perfectly happy with the thought of her being the Best Christmas grandma. Unfortunately, she passes in either 1946 or 1947 from some unfortunate health complications.
Della and Mr. Duck - I view Mr. Duck as a World War II veteran, him serving in the same unit as Donald in my headcanon (Donald's World War II service being attested by many shorts and even implied in a comic or two). The firecracker-under-the-chair incident reported in Huey, Dewey, and Louie's debut triggered Mr. Duck's trauma for the war. His mental health as well as his physical health was deeply shaken. My headcanon did have Della paying close attention to a certain doctor's words about a peaceful and relaxing place called Tralla La (INDUCKS), embarking on a journey with her dear husband to find the place of peace, and some unknown tragedy befalling them on the way. Thinking about it now, though, that doesn't quite make the most sense. If Della was hoping for more tranquility for her husband, why not just move out to the country or somewhere - literally anywhere - else besides a valley on the other side of the world whose existence is uncertain. I don't think there's enough evidence of a Tralla La connection that I am obligated to include it in my headcanon, but I now do not know for sure how this couple's story ended. Hmm...
Also, I don't view Mr. Duck as being Tsamjah Phee. He is too old, and why wouldn't he reveal his connection to Huey, Dewey, and Louie? I don't view him as being Cosmo Duck. He seems to be a cousin by birth of Donald's, not a brother by marriage, and fits better as son of Eider and Lulubelle Duck. I don't view him as being Daisy's brother. You are right, whitewater, that it would make HDL's relationship with AMJ too squicky, and Matilda is right that there would not have to be any familial relationship between the boys and Daisy for them to call her "Aunt Daisy." The fact that she is their uncle's longstanding girlfriend is reason enough for them to use the title. I don't view him as being Daffy Duck. Just no...
In my mind, Mr. Duck is from an unrelated (or maybe very distantly related) Duck family. His father is Frank Duck, the owner of a circus, which explains why Huey, Dewey, and Louie seem to have no connection to their paternal family - they are busy traveling the country, perhaps even the world, with their circus. Frank Duck is apparently the name of Donald Duck's character in the short Frank Duck Brings 'Em Back Alive, which one may argue is a non-canonical "costumed" story. However, the name appears again on a circus poster in Huey, Dewey, and Louie's treehouse in the short Donald's Happy Birthday, a "normal" story. This allows for Frank Duck to actually be the name of Donald's sister's father-in-law that he did some oddity-collecting for in his youth. This allows Huey, Dewey, and Louie's paternal grandparents to be living and possibly able to communicate with them or appear in a few stories but still account for their general absence. Splices interestingly with Erika Fuchs' translation of High-wire Daredevils mentioning an uncle of Huey, Dewey, and Louie's who walked a tightrope. I have no interest in basing my headcanon on Fuchs' translations, but it's neat that it could line up with my theory, with "Seppi Deppi" here being a paternal uncle of Huey, Dewey, and Louie and a performer in his dad's circus.
Also, I should note that, yes, I do count Della as a pilot but do not have her life end in anything plane or space-related, at least not in this continuity. The pilot idea is super cute, and in the aftermath of DuckTales 2017, will probably remain a permanent part of the overall "Della Duck" character, but I have no interest in her dying in a plane crash, and the space thing doesn't really work for ~1945, when I envision Della and her husband's disappearance/deaths taking place.
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Wouldn't he have been a bit too old for that? With a birthdate of 1875-1880, he would have been between 61 and 66 when the US joined WW2 in December 1941. According to Google, only men up to the age of 45 got drafted, and the oldest American fighter pilots were in their late thirties.
I was going to say that he could have died in WW1 instead, but then I remembered that he is alive and well in ca. 1930 in L&T Chapter 11.
You're right - he would be too old to participate in WWII. In that case, I'm not sure how I would imagine his death, but it would happen before Chistmas 1946, which is when I imagine Best Christmas takes place.
It's possible he could have served in WWI though, but I'm not sure if he was ever a veteran, Donald says in Donald Gets Drafted, that his father was a pilot.
In a sense, most of them. But that makes it sound more radical than it really is. If you care for the long answer: I went back to working on my timeline project a few days ago, in which I was trying to fit all Rosa stories and all Barks stories directly referenced by Rosa in a 1940s/50s timeframe. While getting hung up on some problem I realized that I don’t actually care when exactly every single Rosa story takes place. But I still find it fun to place some stories on a temporal axis, especially (but not exclusively) those that I perceive to be relevant for Scrooge’s character arc. So I compiled a list of 25 Rosa stories that are essential to me plus the Barks stories that they reference, and now I’m working only them into a timeline. The other Rosa stories are not necessarily demoted from headcanon status, but I don’t care when they take place, and, what's crucial: it doesn't matter if they contradict my timeline. For example, I have „Last Sled to Dawson“ taking place in 1954 now (as was originally intended by Rosa), which wouldn’t be possible if I had to work „A Little Something Special“ into my timeline as well. In fact, „A Little Something Special“ is maybe the only Rosa story so far that I would go so far as to call „demoted from headcanon status“. It was never very dear to my heart, and the fact that it has to take place in 1952 always caused problems in my original timeline project.
Okay, it's not the only one - "From Duckburg to Lillehammer" was never part of my headcanon, because I don't like the idea of Duckburg sending its own athletes to the Olympics. In my headcanon it's not an independent city state, even though I know there's Barksian precedent for that.
Ahh, so you have designed your own unique headcanon timeline! I like it! Rosa timelines are tough to deal with. Choosing your own key Rosa and Barks stories and creating your own timeline based solely on them is much less stressful!
What is everyone else's head canon on what happened to Quackmore, Hortense, Della and Mr. Duck? I would really like to hear your thought's on what happened to Mr. Duck, was he the brother of Daisy? Did he die from a fire cracker explosion or during WWII? Did he and Della die or abandon their children? Is he Cosmo Duck, and he and Della travelled into space? Or could he be in Tralla La under the name Tsamjah Phee?
Sorry if there is already another thread on this, I just would like to hear your theories and explanations.
All of this will be for my "main" headcanon, taking information primarily from 1930s-1950s sources + Rosa. My thoughts about the whereabouts of missing Duck family tree links in the other Duck universes are much less developed if even developed at all.
Quackmore - Echoing LP , Quackmore was a pilot and did die in a plane crash. I have him dying in an accident during peace time, however, while flying for the airmail service in 1934. His death further fueled Della's dreams of becoming pilot to prove that the rumors about her father's incompetence as an aviator were false.
Hortense - Hortense lived for a solid decade after Quackmore's death, witnessing the birth of her triplet grandsons. I am perfectly happy with the thought of her being the Best Christmas grandma. Unfortunately, she passes in either 1946 or 1947 from some unfortunate health complications.
Della and Mr. Duck - I view Mr. Duck as a World War II veteran, him serving in the same unit as Donald in my headcanon (Donald's World War II service being attested by many shorts and even implied in a comic or two). The firecracker-under-the-chair incident reported in Huey, Dewey, and Louie's debut triggered Mr. Duck's trauma for the war. His mental health as well as his physical health was deeply shaken. My headcanon did have Della paying close attention to a certain doctor's words about a peaceful and relaxing place called Tralla La (INDUCKS), embarking on a journey with her dear husband to find the place of peace, and some unknown tragedy befalling them on the way. Thinking about it now, though, that doesn't quite make the most sense. If Della was hoping for more tranquility for her husband, why not just move out to the country or somewhere - literally anywhere - else besides a valley on the other side of the world whose existence is uncertain. I don't think there's enough evidence of a Tralla La connection that I am obligated to include it in my headcanon, but I now do not know for sure how this couple's story ended. Hmm...
Also, I don't view Mr. Duck as being Tsamjah Phee. He is too old, and why wouldn't he reveal his connection to Huey, Dewey, and Louie? I don't view him as being Cosmo Duck. He seems to be a cousin by birth of Donald's, not a brother by marriage, and fits better as son of Eider and Lulubelle Duck. I don't view him as being Daisy's brother. You are right, whitewater, that it would make HDL's relationship with AMJ too squicky, and Matilda is right that there would not have to be any familial relationship between the boys and Daisy for them to call her "Aunt Daisy." The fact that she is their uncle's longstanding girlfriend is reason enough for them to use the title. I don't view him as being Daffy Duck. Just no...
In my mind, Mr. Duck is from an unrelated (or maybe very distantly related) Duck family. His father is Frank Duck, the owner of a circus, which explains why Huey, Dewey, and Louie seem to have no connection to their paternal family - they are busy traveling the country, perhaps even the world, with their circus. Frank Duck is apparently the name of Donald Duck's character in the short Frank Duck Brings 'Em Back Alive, which one may argue is a non-canonical "costumed" story. However, the name appears again on a circus poster in Huey, Dewey, and Louie's treehouse in the short Donald's Happy Birthday, a "normal" story. This allows for Frank Duck to actually be the name of Donald's sister's father-in-law that he did some oddity-collecting for in his youth. This allows Huey, Dewey, and Louie's paternal grandparents to be living and possibly able to communicate with them or appear in a few stories but still account for their general absence. Splices interestingly with Erika Fuchs' translation of High-wire Daredevils mentioning an uncle of Huey, Dewey, and Louie's who walked a tightrope. I have no interest in basing my headcanon on Fuchs' translations, but it's neat that it could line up with my theory, with "Seppi Deppi" here being a paternal uncle of Huey, Dewey, and Louie and a performer in his dad's circus.
Also, I should note that, yes, I do count Della as a pilot but do not have her life end in anything plane or space-related, at least not in this continuity. The pilot idea is super cute, and in the aftermath of DuckTales 2017, will probably remain a permanent part of the overall "Della Duck" character, but I have no interest in her dying in a plane crash, and the space thing doesn't really work for ~1945, when I envision Della and her husband's disappearance/deaths taking place.
It seems modern Disney (Ducktales 2017), shows that Della was never married. So maybe it's possible that an unnamed Mr. Duck never was a large player in their lives, that is an interesting theory about Frank Duck and Seppi Deppi, and I guess that could be possible.
It is quite strange that HDL have not mentioned any of their father's parents or family in general, maybe it was a small family and many of them died?
It seems modern Disney (Ducktales 2017), shows that Della was never married. So maybe it's possible that an unnamed Mr. Duck never was a large player in their lives, that is an interesting theory about Frank Duck and Seppi Deppi, and I guess that could be possible.
It is quite strange that HDL have not mentioned any of their father's parents or family in general, maybe it was a small family and many of them died?
Whatever is depicted in DuckTales 2017 I will file away into a separate "2017 Continuum." For me, Ted Osborne and Al Taliaferro's direct reference to a father who is obviously to some extent directly involved in his sons' lives in ZS 37-10-17 takes precedence, which is why I do imagine and create a father character with a backstory, connection to Donald, and tragic disappearance/death.
For me, I like to imagine that some of HDL's paternal relatives actually have been mentioned. As I said, I imagine the "Frank Duck Circus" poster seen in their treehouse in the Donald's Happy Birthday short is a poster from their paternal grandfather's circus, and I also identify Uncle Zak McWak from Voyage to Azatlan as the brother of Huey, Dewey, and Louie's paternal grandmother. This would make him the anonymous Mr. Duck's uncle, Frank Duck's brother-in-law, and Huey, Dewey, and Louie's granduncle.
I am willing to sort other relatives into Huey, Dewey, and Louie's paternal family, too, but only if the evidence in the story in which they appear or are mentioned allows for it.
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It seems modern Disney (Ducktales 2017), shows that Della was never married. So maybe it's possible that an unnamed Mr. Duck never was a large player in their lives, that is an interesting theory about Frank Duck and Seppi Deppi, and I guess that could be possible.
It is quite strange that HDL have not mentioned any of their father's parents or family in general, maybe it was a small family and many of them died?
Whatever is depicted in DuckTales 2017 I will file away into a separate "2017 Continuum." For me, Ted Osborne and Al Taliaferro's direct reference to a father who is obviously to some extent directly involved in his sons' lives in ZS 37-10-17 takes precedence, which is why I do imagine and create a father character with a backstory, connection to Donald, and tragic disappearance/death.
For me, I like to imagine that some of HDL's paternal relatives actually have been mentioned. As I said, I imagine the "Frank Duck Circus" poster seen in their treehouse in the Donald's Happy Birthday short is a poster from their paternal grandfather's circus, and I also identify Uncle Zak McWak from Voyage to Azatlan as the brother of Huey, Dewey, and Louie's paternal grandmother. This would make him the anonymous Mr. Duck's uncle, Frank Duck's brother-in-law, and Huey, Dewey, and Louie's granduncle.
I am willing to sort other relatives into Huey, Dewey, and Louie's paternal family, too, but only if the evidence in the story in which they appear or are mentioned allows for it.
I thought he was Donald's uncle? (On the nephew's mother's side)
