Surviving Duck family members

[LP]

At the time of The Strange Shipwrecks, Scrooge implies that both Hortense and Quackmore are dead, and Della is at least presumed to be dead. (And no - in context "nearest" doesn't mean spatial proximity. Scrooge is clearly referring to Donald's genealogical relation towards him.)

[Daniel Maline]

May 30, 2021 14:56:00 GMT LP said:

Eider Duck appears to have died sometime before The Golden River, as Donald says that Scrooge is his only uncle.

Has Eider's eagle bequeathed to Donald in other language versions of the story than in the Finnish Aku Ankka magazine?

[Minotaur]

May 31, 2021 22:22:16 GMT LP said:

At the time of The Strange Shipwrecks, Scrooge implies that both Hortense and Quackmore are dead, and Della is at least presumed to be dead. (And no - in context "nearest" doesn't mean spatial proximity. Scrooge is clearly referring to Donald's genealogical relation towards him.)

Just wondering: aren't HDL as closely related to Donald as Scrooge is?

[LP]

Jul 1, 2021 23:29:06 GMT Minotaur said:

May 31, 2021 22:22:16 GMT LP said:

At the time of The Strange Shipwrecks, Scrooge implies that both Hortense and Quackmore are dead, and Della is at least presumed to be dead. (And no - in context "nearest" doesn't mean spatial proximity. Scrooge is clearly referring to Donald's genealogical relation towards him.)

Just wondering: aren't HDL as closely related to Donald as Scrooge is?

True! I guess Scrooge should have said "I'm one of your nearest relatives" instead.

[Fethryfan]

May 30, 2021 14:56:00 GMT LP said:

Eider Duck appears to have died sometime before The Golden River, as Donald says that Scrooge is his only uncle.

Barks probably just forgot that Eider even existed, he was only mentioned in a single panel from a single story. I'm not sure if he'd have said this if Eider was a regular character, since he wouldn't forget about him.

[Fethryfan]

Let's see...apart from the regular cast (Donald, HDL, Scrooge, Grandma, Gladstone, Gus, Fethry, etc...)

Eider Duck and Lulubelle Loon semm to live far away so their absence in the family reunions is not really a problem, so they could still be alive in present day

Fanny is most likely alive too, and so is her husband Luke Goose. Perhaps they celebrate holidays with Casey and Gretchen and that's why they are never seen in Grandma's farm? it's an easy solution

I believe Rosa stated that Daphne and Goostave are still alive? I don't really remember, so i'm not sure about them

Dugan's mother, whoever she is (maybe Cousin Dora?) is probably alive too, since Dugan doesn't seems to live with his uncle.

[Fethryfan]

I think there is a chance that Scrooge's old uncle Jake McDuck may still be alive. He would be 121 years old by the time A Christmas on Shacktown takes place if we follow Rosa's date, but the longest living recorded human lived up to 122 years old, so that's not impossible

Also, Donald is not the smartest duck around but i don't think he would try to impersonate someone who had already died at that point, something that both he and Scrooge would (probably) know

One could argue that Donald was pretending to be Jake's GHOST, but judging from the way he presents himself to Scrooge, i don't think that was his intention

[Daniel Maline]

In the Barks' canon, Gladstone's parents Daphne and Goostave have died for overeating at Picnic. I don’t know if this was later retconned or otherwise changed. And at least, Don Rosa left out of his own canon that Matilda later adopted Gladstone as the Barks had planned. And so afterwards, Barks’ idea sounds weird and strange today. Perhaps in this new universe they died only after Gladstone had moved out.

[LP]

Sept 23, 2021 5:50:05 GMT Daniel Maline said:

In the Barks' canon, Gladstone's parents Daphne and Goostave have died for overeating at Picnic. I don’t know if this was later retconned or otherwise changed. And at least, Don Rosa left out of his own canon that Matilda later adopted Gladstone as the Barks had planned. And so afterwards, Barks’ idea sounds weird and strange today. Perhaps in this new universe they died only after Gladstone had moved out.

Barks used the picnic idea in his family tree from the 1950s. However, by the 1990s, he had simplified things to the version we're familiar with today. The following is an excerpt from The Don Rosa Library volume 5, page 174:


Note that the text incorrectly states that Gladstone was adopted by Hortense, when it in fact was Matilda, Scrooge's other sister, that was Gladstone's adoptive parent in this version.

[sim]

Sept 9, 2019 20:43:35 GMT Scroogerello said:

Sept 8, 2019 22:53:34 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

I'm just glad that the Duck/McDuck/Coot/Gander/Goose family members who really shouldn't be dead are finally being used in "modern day" stories (assuming that's what this is, but Gus looks like an adult, so it's probably not a flashback story).

EDIT: Just translated it ... is this supposed to be a scene from before Gus goes to work on Grandma's farm?

Yep, it's called "Hoe Gijs bij Oma Duck kwam" ("How Gus ended up at Grandma Duck's"). But from the way Gus looks, I'm assuming it's supposed to take place very shortly before the "present-day". Plus, INDUCKS mentions Fanny and Luke also appear in the opening story of the issue, which doesn't seem to be a flashback.

inducks.org/story.php?c=H+2019-175

Unluckily it is.

That story sets in the present days, at Gus' birthday. The whole Duck family is reunited at Grandma's and she shows Gus' photo-album. He then starts commenting the pictures, narrating his whole life since the egg hatching. Apparently, the stork left his egg at Goose house (I mean that's good for a Disney comics explanation, we already had the same gimmick told with Donald and Biquinho)*. There is also a clever reference to Taliaferro strips/Barks' cartoon about Gus' arriving at Donald's. Oh, and by the way their name appear to be "Archibald (Gans)" and "Annie Prul", which (I checked) are the Dutch names for Luke and Fanny.




I am sorry about the poor quality of these pictures (I took them with the phone), but I am super-happy I finally managed to buy a copy of this special issue!

* Anyway, Gus acknowledges the egg-thing being told him by his mother, so she might as well have made it up as a child-story to cover how ducks (or geese) are actually conceived.

Edit: I just filed a INDUCKS report to correct the characters entries for the story, so that a "(flashback)" note will be hopefully added.

[sim]

"My mother had a saying", does this imply that she is dead?


Same question here about Scrooge's and Donald's mother.


Another example, oddly in the Italian reprint it has substituted by "nonno" (grandfather).




Gosh, these were so repetitive! (besides the moms gag, all the strips of this period are basically Donald sleeping at work)


Grandpa Duck is said to be dead.

[whitewater]

I decided to make a list of the main Duck relatives (through Barks-Rosa canon still alive), I just decided this is the best thread for that.

Still living (when the stories take place)
-Donald Duck
-Huey, Dewey, and Louie
-Grandma Duck
-Gladstone Gander
-Scrooge McDuck
-Matilda McDuck
-Ludwig Von Drake
-Mrs. Von Drake (Ludwig's mother, her voice is sometimes heard in Disney's House of Mouse)
-Eider Duck
-Whitewater Duck
-Fethry Duck (even though he doesn't exist in this canon)
-Cuthbert Coot
-Gus Goose
-Fanny Coot, (revealed to be alive in Gus's first comic and cartoon appearances)
-Luke Goose, (living, due to him being the family genealogist)

Possibly Still Living:
-Della Duck (wherever she is in Rosa's and Barks's canon)
-Mr. Duck (Barks stated HDL's parent possibly ran away due to bad behavior, but Della and him could be in Tralla La).
-Goostave Gander (Gladstone's father, he visits him in a recent comic showing he was alive)
-Daphne Duck (Originally died, but possibly still living, but in a Rosa comic, Grandma Duck is the closest living relative, so maybe not?)
-Lulubelle Loon (If her husband Eider is still alive then she could possibly be as well)
-Casey Coot (no reason for him not to be alive, although he would be older)
-Gretchen Grebe (again same reason)
-Jake McDuck (Likely very elderly if he still is alive, maybe 120+?)

Possibly deceased or already deceased
-Quackmore Duck (Donald says his parents are dead in a 1955 comic, and they never appear in any modern times)
-Hortense McDuck (likely also dead, although in a Quack Pack episode, she is mentioned to still possibly be alive)
-Humperdink Duck (died between 1930 and 1940? There is a reason to be made he died after 1943, when Donald borrowed a "Grandpa's Buggy".
-Ferguus McDuck, Downy McDuck, Clinton Coot, etc. (All have died, they would be extremely old if they were still alive)

[That Duckfan]

May 31, 2021 22:22:16 GMT LP said:

At the time of The Strange Shipwrecks, Scrooge implies that both Hortense and Quackmore are dead, and Della is at least presumed to be dead. (And no - in context "nearest" doesn't mean spatial proximity. Scrooge is clearly referring to Donald's genealogical relation towards him.)

This is also an important plot point in Voodoo Hoodoo.

[whitewater]

Sept 5, 2024 13:10:03 GMT That Duckfan said:

May 31, 2021 22:22:16 GMT LP said:

At the time of The Strange Shipwrecks, Scrooge implies that both Hortense and Quackmore are dead, and Della is at least presumed to be dead. (And no - in context "nearest" doesn't mean spatial proximity. Scrooge is clearly referring to Donald's genealogical relation towards him.)

This is also an important plot point in Voodoo Hoodoo.

This could also show that Hortense, Quackmore, and Matilda have died, I think Rosa has hinted that Della and her husband are possibly alive somewhere. 

[RobbK1]

Jul 1, 2021 23:29:06 GMT Minotaur said:

May 31, 2021 22:22:16 GMT LP said:

At the time of The Strange Shipwrecks, Scrooge implies that both Hortense and Quackmore are dead, and Della is at least presumed to be dead. (And no - in context "nearest" doesn't mean spatial proximity. Scrooge is clearly referring to Donald's genealogical relation towards him.)

Just wondering: aren't HDL as closely related to Donald as Scrooge is?

No. Huey, Dewey, and Louie are one level MORE removed from Scrooge than Donald is, as they are the progeny of Donald's sister, who is the same level of distance from Scrooge as Donald is.  So Donald IS his closest living relative, given that his sister is considered, for all intents and purposes, to be deceased (until she shows up, IF she IS alive).