"... I sincerely can't wait to bathe in your collective hatred" isn't really what I'd want to hear from anyone let alone someone who, as you said, is working on a show that stars alternate versions of characters I quite like.
And you *know* that when he refers to "a very passionate subsection of Duck fandom", he's talking about us who've come into it through the comics. I agree that he needn't have taken such an invidious approach to it.
FWIW, though, I doubt Disney would care if Angones decided to have Della move away from Donald and Scrooge and raise the kids herself. From the looks of it, they've pretty much given this show license to do whatever it wants. Although I agree that's probably not what Angones was referring to.
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! Are you guys in for a treat... ^_^
P.S. But to be fair seeing how some people act angry to every single change (with all do respect) he pretty much could be talking about every single minute of the ucomming episodes....
Seems more like a (desperate) attempt to get attention while interest is fading during the hiatus. Probably nothing particularly notable he's talking about. If I had to guess from what as been posted in this thread so far, the big "shocker" Angones is talking about will most likely be that Scrooge will lose his entire fortune in Glomgold's bet. Given that this version of Scrooge doesn't even care about money, it's nothing shocking if you ask me. Then again (safe for a few Youtube previews) I haven't watched the show since the first Gizmoduck episode about a year ago. Now that it's clear that they will not be doing any attempt to respect the source material, I couldn't care less about anything they're doing on this show, to be honest. This version of DuckTales (luckily!) has no influence on the comics or any other animated media; once the show gets canned, we'll never have to see the obnoxious nephews, unsympathetic Gyro, idiot Glomgold, depressing Donald, Indiana Jones-knockoff Scrooge and all the other counterfeit versions of Barks' characters again. Good riddance.
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Given that this version of Scrooge doesn't even care about money, it's nothing shocking if you ask me. Then again (safe for a few Youtube previews) I haven't watched the show since the first Gizmoduck episode about a year ago.
Err.... Yhe, as much I agree that Scrooge "love of money" was very played down in the first half of the first season, they suprisingly fix this mistep.
Not only we started geting more and more realy great "Scrooge is cheap" jokes per episode (the sequence of him going to Glomgold's party just to take away as many free food he can was one of my favorite scenes of the show) but the last season we actualy got entire stories center around it... Notable episode "87 Cents solution" where Scrooge spents entire episode freaking out because titular 87 cents where gone from his bin (something he notice simply by looking at his money in the bin) and they had him go to absurd links to find it (appearing on Duckburg TV just to give the "kidnapper" his warning, having the kids count every single coin in the bin etc.) We even got scenes of him relaxing and swiming in the bin (about time), shown in action as a buisnesman or even clashing with Donald's lavishness in the "Three Caballeros" episode.
So yhe, in resent season this trade of Scrooge dosen't feel left out at all and they are taking full advantage of it so far.
Also this scene 00:27 :
At the same time I notice similar thing with Lunchpad - his "Crashing" obssesion was only hinted in the first half of first season but now the are doing "Crash" jokes left and right every time he is on screen.
My theory is that they didn't wanted to open the show with "problematic" character aspect as focus (Greed, plane crashing jokes) and they slowly build up to them. Forgive me for (once again) playing the devils advocate but I do get why they didn't wanted to make it feel like the show isn't glorification of greedy billonares and focus more on Scrooges "adventurer" aspects first.
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Post by Monkey_Feyerabend on Jul 27, 2019 0:45:51 GMT
Some quick comments on the new characters' designs from season 3, that they recently revealed.
For personal reasons, I cannot get very excited about this proliferation of disney afternoon characters. It must be very cool for the afecionados of those series to see all those characters be rebooted one by one in this new 'disney afternoon universe'. Good for them. But I was never fond of any of these series, not even DuckTales itself. I wish we had more from the comics universe, but apparently not. Either the authors know more about the 90's cartoon universe, or the target of the series is mostly composed of people that grew up with those cartoons. In any case, it is what it is. Taking or leaving.
Goofy. They are giving us the Goofy from Goof troop. Very conservative choice, which disappoints me for the moment. I was expecting to see him one day in this series, but with some more original look.
Yes, SANTA. We will finally see what is the beef with Scrooge. And they'd better give us the most epic clash in the series ever. They have hipped this comedic contraposition too much. Now they'd better not disappoint me, muhahahahaahha.
Daisy is graphically based on some of her appearances in the late classic Donald shorts, from the 50's. Interesting choice, maybe the only daring one when it comes to these designs. We will see if it pays.
Daisy design sort of shows they want to pay homage to wide vareity of "Disney lore", not just the comics and stuff from the 90's.
Daisy despite having a long history dosen't realy had much of "iconic" moments/mile stones so it's nice they mange to actualy pick up on something from her history to refrence that's "fresh" and not over-used. I woudn't mind the Quack Pack version but that Daisy always felt almost like a seperete character (Still, I'm all for it if they would throw-in a little wink to that and have her be a reporter) "Donald's Dairy" stands out for having a diffrent design that's made that cartoon memroable - in fact entire look of that cartoon is great and somewhat more oddball humor then usual - as well the cartoon actualy intorduce Daisy's parents (even if it's alterative continuity since HD&L are her brothers in this) not to mention Donald and Daisy actualy having a wedding in this. I also find this Daisy over the top romantic personaltiy charming and prefer it over Daisy who just yells at Donald and complains all the time.
So yhe, one ca argue it is the most memorable Daisy's apperace as far the cartoons go. The only one that's I can think of that's more interesting then "Donald's dairy" is "Donald's Dilemma" (Boy the titles of the cartoons feels far form creative when you mention these two titles close to each other, huh?) which not only focuses more on Daisy then Donald but explores her deeply... plus we get a censored unfriendly sequence of her showing bunch of real life mental ilnesses and suicide atempt. So that's something.
I can only imagine them going for the "Donald's Dairy" version of Daisy means we FINALY going to get Donald-Gladstone-Daisy love traingle on the screen. I coudn't be more exited ^_^
Daisy design sort of shows they want to pay homage to wide vareity of "Disney lore", not just the comics and stuff from the 90's.
Daisy despite having a long history dosen't realy had much of "iconic" moments/mile stones so it's nice they mange to actualy pick up on something from her history to refrence that's "fresh" and not over-used. I woudn't mind the Quack Pack version but that Daisy always felt almost like a seperete character (Still, I'm all for it if they would throw-in a little wink to that and have her be a reporter) "Donald's Dairy" stands out for having a diffrent design that's made that cartoon memroable - in fact entire look of that cartoon is great and somewhat more oddball humor then usual - as well the cartoon actualy intorduce Daisy's parents (even if it's alterative continuity since HD&L are her brothers in this) not to mention Donald and Daisy actualy having a wedding in this. I also find this Daisy over the top romantic personaltiy charming and prefer it over Daisy who just yells at Donald and complains all the time.
So yhe, one ca argue it is the most memorable Daisy's apperace as far the cartoons go. The only one that's I can think of that's more interesting then "Donald's dairy" is "Donald's Dilemma" (Boy the titles of the cartoons feels far form creative when you mention these two titles close to each other, huh?) which not only focuses more on Daisy then Donald but explores her deeply... plus we get a censored unfriendly sequence of her showing bunch of real life mental ilnesses and suicide atempt. So that's something.
I can only imagine them going for the "Donald's Dairy" version of Daisy means we FINALY get Donald-Gladstone-Daisy love traingle.
I feel the need to point out that it's technically never stated that it's HDL who are Daisy's "brothers." That's the natural assumption, yes, but it's not official.
Donald and Daisy don't actually get married. Instead, the cartoon provides an explanation for why they haven't married, as Donald joins the Foreign Legion after having a nightmare about marrying Daisy.
I agree, though, that Donald's Diary and Donald's Dilemma provide us with some very good insight into Daisy's character. Both of these shorts of sort of pillars in my personal interpretation of Daisy, as they both show her as someone who just wants to be loved. Donald's Dilemma, in particular, does a great job, showing her as obsessive and emotionally unstable, but loyal and wanting of love. Sleepy Time Donald also does a great job with Daisy.
I'll be interested to see what Ducktales does with Daisy. I don't feel like they should introduce her. They already have way too many characters as it is, but they could very well do an excellent job with her. We'll wait and see.
Ain't that the attitude you just want to see on the person adapting the comics you like into animation
Yes, I do wonder whether I would be more positively disposed towards DT17 if I had never seen any of Angones' tweets. His attitude in the tweets is often deeply irritating to me, and it's hard not to think of that when the series gets too heavily genre-savvy smarter-than-thou.
"Louie teams with Goldie to scam their way through Doofus' dangerous party, while Huey pushes himself out of his comfort zone in his favorite online game."
- A Nightmare on Killmotor Hill!
No plot yet but if this the "Dream land" episode in the teaser with Magica all thngs point out this will be a remake of old Duck Tales episode "Nothing to Fear".
- "The Golden Armory of Cornelius Coot!
No plot, but the title sounds interesting for obvious reason.
- "Timephoon!"
Must be a Gyro episode, with Bubba from the clips... the title however reminds me of "South Park" episode, which I know is an adult show but in episode "Go God Go" (pt. 2 ) Cartman travels to the future and uses a timephoon (literaly that's the name) to call people in the past which leads to changes history via buterfly effect and alters his present so this may very well be the case.
Unless I missed some very quick refrence the name "Kilmotor Hill" was never used in the show.
Conrelius Coot made a cameo as a statue in Duckburgs park in episode "Duck on the lam" just to be destroyed by Bubba. He is holding Horn of plenty inted of Corn (perhaps a pun on "Cornucopia"?) It's an rare example of an Easter Egg for comic fans in the orygnal show - Grandma Ducks cameo in one episode and name droping "Calisota" in another are the only two others I can think of.