Post by donalddisneyfan on Jun 26, 2023 3:25:46 GMT
Yes, I've fallen into using "Angones" as a shorthand term for the assorted production staff of New Ducktales mainly because of the way Angones basically made himself the public face of the show in interviews and on Tumblr. Youngberg is probably also responsible for many of the show's creative choices, and it's interesting to learn of his superhero background--not exactly the work history I'd have looked for in hiring someone for a major creative role on a Duck show.
Returning to your comments on New Ducktales, one of the reasons I'm not terribly bothered by the varying-from-the-source adaptations of the DC and Marvel characters--like the Timm/Dini shows or some of the MCU movies--is that there really is no authoritative "source" for the superhero characters; Batman's comics universe, for example, has changed its tone and ambiance so many times over the years (from pulp-Gothic to Dick Tracy-ish stylization to candy-colored sci-fi antics to Marvel-esque dramatics to Frank Miller/Alan Moore "edginess") that one can point to comic-book sources to support the tone of most adaptations. The Ducks and their world have been much more consistent on the comics page over the years, and thus I think taking the same "shapes and symbols" approach to adapting their world strips that world of its essence much more than a similar approach does to superhero stories.
Considering thoughts on how Angones and Youngberg didn't do a good job with the show, who do you think would've been a better fit to run it? And it has to be a modern person who works on TV cartoons, like born after say 1973/74-ish (young enough to have grown up watching the original) so you can't just say to bring the older generation that worked on the original Disney Afternoon like Jymn Magon, Tad Stones, or Alan Zaslove.
I doubt it'd be any different with the other Disney TVA modern alumni like Alex Hirsch, Matt Braly, Dana Terrace (she was actually a director on DT 17 in season 1), Houghton Brothers, Craig McCraken (Angones actually worked with him on Wander Over Yonder and Kid Cosmic), and Daron Nefcy especially given their shows either share the same tone as DuckTales 2017 or (in the case of Matt B, Dana, Houghton Brothers, and Craig) are good friends with Frank and Matt Y and speak highly of the show to the point where it probably would've not been so different from what Frank and Matt Y did. Kinda curious which person in animation out there would pull off a great DuckTales series.
To: ScroogeMacDuck On the subject of how the winds of time will lead to fanciful/shapes-and-symbols adaptations accumulating, it is worth noting even with other Mickey and Friends productions, we have the Paul Rudish Mickey Mouse shorts with the exaggerated wackiness on par with Ren and Stimpy, Kingdom Hearts' own complex anime lore, the Disney Junior Mickey Mouse shows' played up preschool aspect with Clubhouse taking a Dora the Explorer vibe, and the weirdness of the Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers movie for fanciful/shapes-and-symbols adaptations of the Mickey and Friends stuff so it seems to be a trend with them nearing 90-100 years of age.
Looking at various fanciful/shapes-and-symbols adaptations, we have stuff like Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, Be Cool Scooby Doo, She Ra 2018, Carmen Sandiego 2019, the Sonic movies, Sonic Boom, MLP Friendship is Magic, Teen Titans Go, Powerpuff Girls 2016, Ben 10 2017, The Looney Tunes Show, Jellystone, SCOOB, and Mickey Mouse 2013. I wonder how those hold as adaptations taking a lot of liberties and going outside the comfort zone?