Ducktales 2017

[drakeborough]

Jun 15, 2017 17:00:55 GMT RobbK1 said:

So, the front of the 1870s 0r 1880s US dime should have had "Lady Liberty" seated (Seated Liberty dime), with the back (reverse) having a laurel wreath with "one dime" written in its centre

Indeed, according to several Rosa stories (and at least one Italian story), the Number One Dime is a Seated Liberty dime minted in 1875 (two years before Scrooge earned it):

On the other hand, some ten years ago in Italy they did a real-life version of the Number One Dime, and I have a hard time taking that thing seriously since it was a cent rather than a dime, had a 1947 date, mentioned the Bank of Duckburg and even showed the face of adult Scrooge! Bah.

Jun 15, 2017 17:19:02 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Drakeborough, I agree with you that Duckburg is in this world, not a parallel world, but I don't think that a duck face on the coin negates that or makes it not "real". To me, when we read a Duck comic, we are viewing events occurring in our world through a "filter" that turns everyone into anthropomorphic beings, even though they are actually all humans. Thus, when Rosa depicts Teddy Roosevelt, he gives him a little black nose, but he's still the same Teddy Roosevelt from our history, not a canine version in a parallel universe. Similarly, if current day celebrities or leaders are depicted in Duck comics, I would want them to be anthropomorphic animals (not necessarily dogfaces, but in accordance with the unwritten rules of Duck comics; so no elephants or giraffes, for example) rather than humans. But it would still be them, with the same histories and personalities. When you pick up a penny in the Duckiverse, it will still have an image of Abraham Lincoln, but that image would have a dognose or a duckbill or some such.

In my view, there are no humans in the Duckiverse. If you or I were to be in one of these stories, we would be anthropomorphic animals of some sort (by odds, depicted with dognoses).

What you said about the "filter" that turns peple into anthropomorphic beings makes perfect sense to me, and I even used similar expressions in the past. However, I also think that there are a few cases in which it is better if the "filter" is turned off, such as when we see in Lo$ part 4 the Statue of Liberty under construction: I think Don did the right think by giving Lady Liberty a human nose, as a dognose version of Lady Liberty would probably look strange and weird. I never tried making a list of all the instances in which I would like to see the "filter" turned off, but at any rate I'd like to see the currency in the duck universe as close as possible to real-world currency. In other words, I wouldn't like to see dollars replaced by a fictional currency like in the example below (Barks paintings obviously had a different target than his comics):

Jun 15, 2017 17:19:02 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Re: Calisota, I have always thought of it as the Duckiverse's equivalent of California (one of the few deviations from our real universe), so I doubt that the founder of Duckburg (a fictional city within our universe) would be portrayed on national currency.

If we use the map in the splash panel of Rosa's Lo$ part 10 as a reference, then Calisota coincides with the nothern third of California. Having Calisota and California exist in the same universe was a wise choice, since it explains the many references to the actual California (including classics like Barks' "In Old California!")

Jun 15, 2017 17:19:02 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

I know Barks depicted Duckburgian consulates abroad, but I have to ignore that since it makes no sense to me; why should a city have its own foreign embassy?

That two-panel reference to a Duckburgian embassy in the Marco Polo story always struck me as odd (no other Barks story said or implied Duckburg is a city-state) and completely gratuitous, since it has no relevance in the story and the scene would still make sense if the American embassy had been mentioned instead. This was Rosa's theory as to why Barks made that choice:

Sometimes Barks would get himself into a plot situation, such as in "Treasure of Marco Polo", where he needed to involve some federal institution such as an embassy on foreign soil. By the time of that story in the mid-60's, the editors knew the stories were very popular in foreign reprints, and the mention of "United States" or any state name was not to be used. This made it necessary for there to be a "Duckburg Embassy" in that story, as awkward as that is.

Do we have any element to confirm this theory? At any rate, Rosa's Duckburg is definitely NOT a city-state, and yet he too mentioned a Duckburgian embassy in "The Crown of the Crusader Kings", possibly as an attempt to create a bridge between these two versions (i.e., Duckburg is not a city-state but still has foreign embassies for some reason) instead of mentally retcon the Duckburgian embassy in the Marco Polo story into an American embassy. Do we have some Rosa quote about his use of the Duckburgian embassy in "Crusader"?

[Monkey_Feyerabend]

Jun 15, 2017 13:59:39 GMT Huwey said:

Jun 15, 2017 8:13:19 GMT Monkey_Feyerabend said:

(a badly faked Neapolitan accent )

If this is a good Neapolitan accent, then Magicas is not the best indeed.

No ,wait. We should make a distinction. One thing is the dialect, one other is the accent.
Every region in Italy has its own dialect (which actually changes from town to town), and each dialect is so peculiar that sounds as a complete foreign language to people living in another region of the country (with the exception of Lazio and Toscana...their "dialects" are basically the Italian language itself).
The accent is of course the way to pronounce the common language, Italian.

In the video you posted the guy is not talking Italian with Neapolitan accent, but real Neapolitan dialect. On the other side, Magica speaks Italian with a Neapolitan accent. Of course, otherwise most viewers of the show would have not understood most of what she said. 

That's why the two sound so different to you.

 

[Minotaur]

Wait a second, if they made Glomgold Scottish to avoid political issue, how could it be helpful by making Magica Russian?

[Baar Baar Jinx]

With regards to Goldie, I think it's interesting that they refer to her as "Goldie O'Gilt" rather than "Glittering Goldie". This character looks like she's going to be drastically redone; traditional Goldie has never been "an adventurer". Although they have her meeting with Scrooge still taking place in the "gold rush", I wonder if they're going to have her have been a female prospector or some such at the time, rather than a honky-tonk owner/performer, in the name of political correctness and modernization (even of a past time). Anyway, Rosa can take credit for one aspect of this new series, Goldie's last name, the only thing so far that unambiguously originates from his work (although he probably does not want to be connected in any way with this series).

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Something we've mostly overlooked so far is that it looks like the show is really, really going to amp up the fantasy elements, even compared to the original DuckTales rather than the comics. Three out of the four released shorts so far have involved the supernatural (a ghost for Mrs Beakley, a sasquatch for Huey, the ever-burning candle for Scrooge), and the opening credits are full of supernatural creatures, such as a pirate ghost, a mummy, a giant scorpio, a dragon……

[rancidduck]

From Previews Scoop E-Newsletter

"The reboot of Disney’s classic animated series DuckTales not only has a release date now, but the title sequence has also been revealed. Disney XD’s take on DuckTales will be arriving on Saturday, August 12, 2017, at 12 AM – and will run for a consecutive 24 hours as an hour-long movie that is simply being called Woo-hoo!.

The series proper will then kick off with two new episodes on September 23 – which happens to be the 30th anniversary of the original series. The new series stars David Tennant as Scrooge McDuck, Danny Pudi as Huey, Ben Schwartz as Dewey, Bobby Moynihan as Louie, Kate Micucci as Webby, and Tony Anselmo as Donald Duck."

scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1012?ArticleID=195779

[rancidduck]

From Entertainment Weekly

"Life is like a hurricane-or will be this August-with Disney XD's revival of DuckTales, the '80s toon about Donald Duck's nephews and their wild excursions with great-unlce Scrooge McDuck(voiced by Doctor Who's David Tennant). "This is a big blended family of adventurers, so it should feel like a combination of Indiana Jones and an Arrested Development-style sitcom where every character has a different relationship to one another," explains co-producer Francisco Angones. The reboot sticks to its expedition-of-the-week DNA, but with a hint of season-long serialization-one mystery involves a big family secret between Scrooge and Donald-as well as sharper personalities for Huey, Dewey, and Louie (Danny Pudi, Ben Schwartz, and Bobby Moynihan) and more screen time for Webby (Kate Micucci). "Since everyone always says 'Huey, Dewey, Louie.' we made that their birth order and it helped define their personalities," says EP Matt Youngberg. "Huey has Scrooge's brains, Dewey has his guts, Louie has his love of treasure, and Webby has Scrooge's heart." The city of Duckburg also boasts dozens of supporting players, both new and familiar (including Allison Janney as Scrooge's paramour, Goldie O'Gilt), voiced by actors who Youndberg says geeked out just as much as the fanboy showrunners: "As we started casting, we realized this was a dream job for many, many more people than just us."

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Look! Someone on Tumblr figured out that the theme song isn't actually referencing stories, but paintings — specifically, at least four well-known Barks paintings. Have a look!    

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Looks like the nephews' divergent personalities translate into only one of them being a Junior Woodchuck ...

quackberg asked: Will we ever see the kids in their Junior Woodchuck uniforms, especially the woodchuck caps?

Angones: Huey is the consummate Junior Woodchuck of the team. There will definitely be some quality Woodchuckery coming up.

Come to think of it, we've only ever seen Huey with the Guidebook in this series' promotional material. Which fits with what they've told us about their individual qualities. It's hard to imagine this show's Quack Pack-like, laid-back, lackadaisical Louie, for example, as a disciplined Woodchuck.

[Pan Maciej]

Ah, this intro is beyond fantastic and it's hard not to appriciate this many Barks homages, which just shows it's being made by fas of the show.

I do like the voice singing it (especialy the "D-d-d-daner" part)

I just came back from Annecy film festival where the intro was shown to the public for the first time (day before it hit the internet) I didn't went to the press confrence as I had other apoitments but my friend was there and he said that the creators mention that while they all had diffrent idea what the intro should look like one thing they universaly agree apon is that they didn't want to change the song.

For me that Mark Beaks guy might started as Rockerduck but they change him to add more variaty and not have yet another duck.


I also wonder about Magica De Spell. I actually think that lack of her in the intro dosen't mean they down playing her but they actually have some big plans for her - like she will be the Big Bad of the show. I was actually wonder since the show - as we can tell - will focus strongly on Treasure Hunting, how much room there will be left for "Magica's plots to get the number one dime" plots. Trying to race the Ducks to get to the treasure is more of Glomgold or Beagle Boys theritory (not to say, there are some treasure hunt stories with Magica as the antagonit)

As far I know Little Helper was named Little Bulb only once in Duck Tales episode "Money Vanishned". I wonder is that robot in the intro is some recontrust Helper who went evil...


I'm starting to love new Webby more and more. I just hope they won't make her to much of a copy of Mabel from "Gravity Falls" (whe has the hook and similar voice and hyper-activer manerysm) and as much I don't care for oryginal Webby... yhe, I hope she will steel feel like that character uptated rather then 100% new one.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Jun 18, 2017 7:58:52 GMT Pan Maciej said:

As far I know Little Helper was named Little Bulb only once in Duck Tales episode "Money Vanishned". I wonder is that robot in the intro is some recontrust Helper who went evil...

This theory is supported by the fact that Li'l Bulb is among the villains chasing the Ducks at the very beginning of the intro (which I found highly amusing). Gyro also has an evil expression in the promotional still that appeared in the EW article, that shows him holding Li'l Bulb, so you almost wonder if this was somehow intentional on Gyro's part. I doubt they'd go that far, but if we didn't know Gyro better it'd be easy to make a case for his actually being an antagonist-in-disguise here.



As for the theme song, I get a "you all know and love this one, here's our fan-servicey take on it" vibe. I never found the original as catchy as some gush that it is, but I find this version superior to the original.   

[Pan Maciej]

In this clip Gyro appears to be a bit freak-out by his creation so it's just another robot that went out of control on his own ala "Armstrong"...




P.S. I like how Donald smiles for a second here : 

[Pan Maciej]

Jun 16, 2017 16:27:20 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

Something we've mostly overlooked so far is that it looks like the show is really, really going to amp up the fantasy elements, even compared to the original DuckTales rather than the comics. Three out of the four released shorts so far have involved the supernatural (a ghost for Mrs Beakley, a sasquatch for Huey, the ever-burning candle for Scrooge), and the opening credits are full of supernatural creatures, such as a pirate ghost, a mummy, a giant scorpio, a dragon……

Well it's obvious they promoting fantastic elements to highlight how imaginative adventures are waiting for the characters and puting a dragon or a ghost is best quick way to show-case it since kids immediately will know what that is... 

The gigant scorpions where in the DuckTales movie. 

[The KKM]

Ludwig von Drake confirmed on Angones' tumblr, meanwhile. And the yellow-dressed parrot girl seems to be named Lena.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Jun 21, 2017 19:36:03 GMT The KKM said:

And the yellow-dressed parrot girl seems to be named Lena.

Not so sure about that. Lena is described as a "well-traveled teen". The Jumpsuit Ninja Lady (if that's who you're referring to) is clearly meant to be older and seems to be a villain aligned with Glomgold and the Tinhat Wolf Brothers. They seem to be two distinct characters.