They pop up in the oddest places, don't they? I've had to fit them into my Don Rosa timeline (which includes all the stories he took inspiration from -- about 120 Barks stories and a dozen odds and sods), because they feature in the stories that established Elvira and Humperdink's names. But their appearance in the Barks canon is legit, by way of this obscure 1951 WDC back-up story, so I can't leave them out.
Personally, like Rosa, I exclude stories drawn but not written by Barks from my Barks/Rosa-based headcanon, because otherwise I'd have to include Dumbo and the Big Bad Wolf as part of the Duckverse.
They pop up in the oddest places, don't they? I've had to fit them into my Don Rosa timeline (which includes all the stories he took inspiration from -- about 120 Barks stories and a dozen odds and sods), because they feature in the stories that established Elvira and Humperdink's names. But their appearance in the Barks canon is legit, by way of this obscure 1951 WDC back-up story, so I can't leave them out.
Personally, like Rosa, I exclude stories drawn but not written by Barks from my Barks/Rosa-based headcanon, because otherwise I'd have to include Dumbo and the Big Bad Wolf as part of the Duckverse.
Understandable. I only draw on the Barks stories that feature into Rosa stories to navigate away from Dumbo and the Big Bad Wolf. So I have 120 Barks stories, instead of hundreds. I do try to justify the use of characters through Barks, which can get a little tricky sometimes. (A notorious example is Pluto, who appears in Uncle Scrooge Goes to Disneyland, the Strobl-drawn framing device around Barks' Fantastic River Race circa 1957. The only time Barks used Pluto in a comic was in Pluto Saves the Ship, a comic that's explicitly set in World War II. That means Pluto is over 12 years old by the time USGD rolls around. It's not impossible for a dog of his breed, but it stretches credibility a little bit!) Rosa broke his "rule" of his a couple of times, especially when it comes to Strobl. Anyway, his timeline is not my timeline, so I don't need to play by his rules the same way he didn't always follow "Barksian facts" to the letter.
They pop up in the oddest places, don't they? I've had to fit them into my Don Rosa timeline (which includes all the stories he took inspiration from -- about 120 Barks stories and a dozen odds and sods), because they feature in the stories that established Elvira and Humperdink's names. But their appearance in the Barks canon is legit, by way of this obscure 1951 WDC back-up story, so I can't leave them out.
To my knowledge, there's only one Disney character that Rosa used in his stories whom Barks never acknowledged, and that's Panchito. (Zé Carioca appeared in on the margins of this oil painting.) Of course, that means that Disney's South America features are a part of the Rosa timeline, and it just goes downhill from there.
I have a similar "love it, but oh the continuity!" relationship with the ending of The Empire-Builder of Calisota. It'd take me several paragraphs to explain, but conflicting accounts suggest it takes place in 1930, 1931, 1932, AND 1933!
Such is the continuity of Disney Comics!
That Duckfan, if you ever want to make a thread about your Rosa-based timeline (or maybe just post it onto the Keno Korner thread), I'd love to read it! I love timelines and questions of continuity. You've clearly put a lot of thought into the Rosa timeline, and I'd like to read a more detailed delve into your timeline.
Personally, like Rosa, I exclude stories drawn but not written by Barks from my Barks/Rosa-based headcanon, because otherwise I'd have to include Dumbo and the Big Bad Wolf as part of the Duckverse.
Understandable. I only draw on the Barks stories that feature into Rosa stories to navigate away from Dumbo and the Big Bad Wolf. So I have 120 Barks stories, instead of hundreds. I do try to justify the use of characters through Barks, which can get a little tricky sometimes. (A notorious example is Pluto, who appears in Uncle Scrooge Goes to Disneyland, the Strobl-drawn framing device around Barks' Fantastic River Race circa 1957. The only time Barks used Pluto in a comic was in Pluto Saves the Ship, a comic that's explicitly set in World War II. That means Pluto is over 12 years old by the time USGD rolls around. It's not impossible for a dog of his breed, but it stretches credibility a little bit!) Rosa broke his "rule" of his a couple of times, especially when it comes to Strobl. Anyway, his timeline is not my timeline, so I don't need to play by his rules the same way he didn't always follow "Barksian facts" to the letter.
Carl Barks also used Pluto one or two times in the early mid and mid '60s in stories with Huey, Dewey, and Louie, instead of The Official Hound, because of directives from editors, and did the same from 1969-74 in a few Junior Woodchucks stories which Barks wrote and storyboarded, but didn't draw the final drawings (Tony Strobl, or Kay Wright did).
Then there's also Goofy's pet raven or crow or whatever, which later becomes a full on character... I don't recall his name though.
From 1952-1964 during my time reading comic books, I remember never seeing "Pistolas" as Pancho's name. It was always printed as"Pancho Pistoles" , which is the plural of "pistol" (handgun) in Spanish. "Pistol" is a feminine noun in Spanish. So, it should be spelt, "pistolas". However, I don't remember ever seeing "Pancho Pistolas" in print. It seems that the original group that came up with the character for the 2 1940s feature films with Donald and the two other Caballeros didn't know the proper Spanish plural of "pistol", and so, misspelled it. And that misspelling was carried forward for many years.
From 1952-1964 during my time reading comic books, I remember never seeing "Pistolas" as Pancho's name. It was always printed as"Pancho Pistoles" , which is the plural of "pistol" (handgun) in Spanish. "Pistol" is a feminine noun in Spanish. So, it should be spelt, "pistolas". However, I don't remember ever seeing "Pancho Pistolas" in print. It seems that the original group that came up with the character for the 2 1940s feature films with Donald and the two other Caballeros didn't know the proper Spanish plural of "pistol", and so, misspelled it. And that misspelling was carried forward for many years.
It seems your reasoning is correct. My use of "Pistolas" comes from the Behind the Scenes-text of The Don Rosa Library 9. It's mostly the last paragraph that's relevant, but I added the whole Panchito's-last-name-text for context.
With this in mind, maybe that one correct use of "Pistolas" should be regarded as an error. Panchito's last name may very well be "Pistoles", even though that's not how the word it refers to is spelled. I mean, that's not uncommon in names of that nature. They morph over time.
From 1952-1964 during my time reading comic books, I remember never seeing "Pistolas" as Pancho's name. It was always printed as"Pancho Pistoles" , which is the plural of "pistol" (handgun) in Spanish. "Pistol" is a feminine noun in Spanish. So, it should be spelt, "pistolas". However, I don't remember ever seeing "Pancho Pistolas" in print. It seems that the original group that came up with the character for the 2 1940s feature films with Donald and the two other Caballeros didn't know the proper Spanish plural of "pistol", and so, misspelled it. And that misspelling was carried forward for many years.
It seems your reasoning is correct. My use of "Pistolas" comes from the Behind the Scenes-text of The Don Rosa Library 9. It's mostly the last paragraph that's relevant, but I added the whole Panchito's-last-name-text for context.
With this in mind, maybe that one correct use of "Pistolas" should be regarded as an error. Panchito's last name may very well be "Pistoles", even though that's not how the word it refers to is spelled. I mean, that's not uncommon in names of that nature. They morph over time.
Yes, even the accepted form of a plural noun may change "gender" over time. Unfortunately for spelling and grammar traditionalists, often, errors become used by too many people, and eventually become the accepted and "official" form.
Panchito "Pistoles" is a nickname. His real name is Panchito Romero Miguel Junipero Francisco Quintero González III.
Interestingly enough, that one might actually be up for debate.
I'd imagine that Disney is wholly content to agree that 'Pistoles' is a nickname, seeing as he's rarely allowed to actually use guns any more. That being said, there are two examples that go against that name.
The first is Legend of the Three Caballeros - it's a fairly minor one, but they drop Junipero from the name.
The other is a comic titled 'Panchito' by Ken Hultgren:
Resident autistic, diabetic duck fan.
I love hearing about bizarre/obscure Disney works - recommendations welcome!
There's an episode of House of Mouse where he sings a song explaining his long name and family tree. But it's funny to see the same joke in a comic book pannel, even if it's a completly different name!