Moby refers to Donald as his relative in Sea Dog's Holiday too. He says
Let's see... What lucky Duck relative shall I stay with this year?
Donald Duck! Heh! He should be tickled to have me!
Oh, thanks! I was really looking for a reference for this relationship. Plus, I find that Sea Dog's Holiday is swell drawn.
Ps. Notice how Moby Duck's beak resembles the one of Fethry's cousins appearing in that old Chendi/Bottaro story I mentioned some while ago; I think you have them as "Loon".
I looked through some old Kalle Anka & c:o, and found Paperino e la scampagnata sfortunata. This Duck-lady appears with Daisy: Now, my magazine has lost a few pages over the years, including the page where she is introduced... so I don't know who this is. I would assume that she's just a friend of Daisy and not a relative, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Is any of you familiar with this person?
Also, according to INDUCKS there is apparently a Gearloose-ancestor appearing in Giant-Size Gyro. He's from the Middle Ages, so outside the scope of my tree, but I still thought it could be interesting.
I looked through some old Kalle Anka & c:o, and found Paperino e la scampagnata sfortunata. This Duck-lady appears with Daisy: Now, my magazine has lost a few pages over the years, including the page where she is introduced... so I don't know who this is. I would assume that she's just a friend of Daisy and not a relative, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Is any of you familiar with this person?
Also, according to INDUCKS there is apparently a Gearloose-ancestor appearing in Giant-Size Gyro. He's from the Middle Ages, so outside the scope of my tree, but I still thought it could be interesting.
indeed in the original, she is just referred to as a friend, “Marilena from Hollywood” to be exact
Looking through some new pubblications collecting various stories with a common theme, I found a story I didn't remember but that contains a couple of new relatives. The story is Qui Quo Qua e la grande storia della chimica (for some reasons inducks separate it in multiple stories, even if it is a single story where Ludwig tells multiple stories about ducks' ancestors, like the "Paperino e la sfortuna storica" mentioned before).
The first story-in-the-story is Monsieur Cicciotte e la pesa della spesa. It is explicitly set in XVIII century Paris. "monsieur" Cicciotte (probably the surname, because later says "monsieur Lavoisier", which is the surname), is an ancestor ("antenato") of Gus Goose is a butler of Antoine Lavoisier and his wife Marie-Anne Pierette, and unwittingly inspired the law of conservation of mass. It is said that Lavoisier then wrote it in 1789, so the story happened probably shortly before.
The second s-i-t-s is Paperiev e il disordine periodico. Explicitly set in Russia of XIX century. Paperiev, ancestor of HDL and DD, is the assistant of Dmitri Mendeleev. He unintentionally inspired the periodic table, by ordering Mendeleev's lab. The story states that in 1803 Dalton published his atomic theory, and a few years later the italians Avogradro and Cannizzaro explained the difference between atoms and molecols. For how it is written those have happened before the story. It also says that Mendeleev presented his table the 6 march 1869, so the story must be not much before. Paperiev also says that he prepares "hot waffles" for his nephews/grandchildren ("nipotini"). Since Paperiev is a DD-lookalike, those are probably a couple (3?) nephews, à la HDL.
The third story has DD and $mD lookalikes, but those aren't said to be ancestors.
The fourth and last, Gaston Meneghin e lo sforna plastica, instead has an ancestor. He is called Gaston Meneghin, and while he is a Gladstone-lookalike, he can't be from the Gladstone branch because Ludwig says Gaston his "our ancestor" (of Ludwig and HDL, because there are only them talking). The story explicitly states 1959 Milan. He worked/was an assistant in the laboratory of Giulio Natta at the Politecnico di Milano, and for error created the isotactic polypropylene, but he never ammitted his error so he never became rich with the patent. But he got the love of an unnamed corvine-haired student (unclear if it was only a flirt or if the two got together for long)
I just posted a recent interview with César Ferioli in which he talks about his latest comics and some personal situation... what is noteworthy (I think) for this very thread is that he is currently working on a Dutch story in which Gladstone's father appears and is alive!!
I just posted a recent interview with César Ferioli in which he talks about his latest comics and some personal situation... what is noteworthy (I think) for this very thread is that he is currently working on a Dutch story in which Gladstone's father appears and is alive!!
Cool! I like this interpretation of Goosetave's design! And I'm looking forward to reading this story.
I just posted a recent interview with César Ferioli in which he talks about his latest comics and some personal situation... what is noteworthy (I think) for this very thread is that he is currently working on a Dutch story in which Gladstone's father appears and is alive!!
This is the sketch he sent me.
I thought Disney comic writers weren't allowed to include direct relatives
I just posted a recent interview with César Ferioli in which he talks about his latest comics and some personal situation... what is noteworthy (I think) for this very thread is that he is currently working on a Dutch story in which Gladstone's father appears and is alive!!
This is the sketch he sent me.
I thought Disney comic writers weren't allowed to include direct relatives
Well, that surprised me too, but maybe it will published in some special issue like the one dedicated to Gus where we see his parents, the only difference would be that (there) it was a flashback. I also suspected that he would be changed into some "uncle" before publication, but it would take away the sense of the story and the INDUCKS page (which oddly already exists) states that he is Goosetave.
Anyhow, rules about parents may be different now (I think): we see Magica's ones in a recent Astrup/Cavazzano, Clinton and Gertrude appear in a super-recent Italian story, Scrooge's parents are seen more and more, and also Fulton appeared in an Italian story a few years ago... it's like Don Rosa opened the way to it. The only difference, as I said, is that these all were flashbacks whereas Goosetave would appear in flesh. But I guess that, if the story has been approved and drawn, it's likely that the writer found a good way to include him. Keep in mind that Gladstone is an adult, and he is not the main character, we don't know much of his life/family. It would have been more complicated to explain the presence of HDL's parents, since they are kids.
Both the Italian and the French names, Jellat de' Scalognati (literally "unlucky of the unlucky ones") and M. Padechance ("Mr. no luck"), insist on the bad luck, suggesting that he could descend from Gladstone's ancestor Badstone Badluck (I mean, this surname is just perfectly fitting) from Faccini's story. The Brasilian name, Gastolino Cifrão ("dollar sign"), is more neutral though, suggesting he was wealthy(?).
The French reprint is almost certainly translated from Italian.
I do not know if the original plot and script for this story was written by an American or Italian author.
In the later case one may argue that the Italian name is more "original" than any English name that may have existed.
I also suspected that [Gladstone's father] will be changed into some "uncle" before publication, but it would take away the sense of the story and the INDUCKS page (which oddly already exists) states that he is Goosetave.
Do you know which story this is? Inducks lists two recent Ferioli stories with Gladstone: D 2020-150 and D 2021-049, but they don't seem to match.
I also suspected that [Gladstone's father] will be changed into some "uncle" before publication, but it would take away the sense of the story and the INDUCKS page (which oddly already exists) states that he is Goosetave.
Do you know which story this is? Inducks lists two recent Ferioli stories with Gladstone: D 2020-150 and D 2021-049, but they don't seem to match.
It is actually linked in the interview, anyway it’s H 2021-263.
Donald’s ancestor (simply referred to as ‘old-timer’) appears in this animated special: d23.com/a-to-z/how-the-west-was-lost-television/ He looks like Moby Duck (probably a re-used character model), and was voiced by Bill Thompson (same guy who voiced Grandpa Duck in No Hunting).
Donald’s ancestor (simply referred to as ‘old-timer’) appears in this animated special: d23.com/a-to-z/how-the-west-was-lost-television/ He looks like Moby Duck (probably a re-used character model), and was voiced by Bill Thompson (same guy who voiced Grandpa Duck in No Hunting).
Oooh, fascinating stuff! Since he looks like Moby Duck, he would probably be both Donald and Moby's ancestor. There is vacant rooms in the tree for the Old-timer to be either Danial/Daniel "Bluffer" (Civil War soldier) Duck's maternal grandfather or Paperett Custar's grandfather. Or maybe the Old-timer could be even further back in time? I know it says "Old West", but that's not very specific. According to Wikipedia, the Old West-period lasted 1607–1912. Is his clothing an indicator of something that narrows it down more? Are there any fashion historians in the thread?
There's nothing historical about the costume, it's your bog standard cartoon cow puncher outfit. He might as well be a contemporary who just dresses funny, like Scrooge's wild west brother.