Dawg (Goofy) Family Tree

[LP]

Sept 16, 2022 1:35:16 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Great graphic, LP! Yes, I'd think that all the kids in the portrait are Goofy's siblings, and this picture could be more than twenty years old. Goofy could be, say, 17 here, and could be in his late thirties in the present day.

Yes, considering Goofy is supposed to be at least a few years older than Mickey (and presumably Donald too), then yes: this could very well be more than 20 years ago.
I know I only made that graphic yesterday, but pretty much all of my views regarding it has already shifted: The photo is likely older than 20 years old and all the children are likely Goofy's siblings. The only aspect of the graphic I still cling to is the idea that the leftmost brother is the same one from ZM 54-05-30. If the picture is over 20 years old, he probably hadn't yet met his wife at this point, so the one I labeled as his wife is likely his and Goofy's sister. 

Finally, the brother in blue standing next to Goofy is the best candidate for Gaffy, as he and Goofy appears to be of similar age. Goofy and Gaffy were seen as toddlers in another picture in Gaffy's story, where the two are looking identical in age.

[Scroogerello]

Goofy’s great grandpa appears in this Walsh/Gottfredson strip: inducks.org/story.php?c=YM+61-09-14 . I’d say he’s Grandma Goofy’s father, given that they have the same basic character premise (very ‘hip’ and ‘with it’ despite their age), and they were both created by the same writer/artist duo.

And since you seem to be including Goofy’s nephews: there’s Marmaduke inducks.org/story.php?c=ZM+45-04-22
and an unnamed one from another Walsh/Gottfredsson gag: inducks.org/story.php?c=YM+73-10-01

EDIT: there’s also his great great Grandpa Sam Goof from this strip (Bill Walsh again, this time drawn by Manuel Gonzales): inducks.org/story.php?c=ZM+50-04-16

Also, on the topic of Goofy’s surname, I seem to remember that in one Gottfredson serial, Goofy’s full name was said to be ‘Gideon El Goofola’. And another one where he was called Arthur Goof or something like that?

[TheMidgetMoose]

LP , I know that there's a lot going on with the Duck family tree thread, so you may not have a whole lot of interest in returning the Goofs right now. Still, I made this discovery the other day and wanted to document it before I forgot it. In Private-eye Guy (W DD 98-03), three out of four of Goofy's grandparents are mentioned. One of Goofy's grandfathers was "Snoopy." He was a detective. It would make sense him to put him on the same branch as Goofy's detective uncle, Howan Dawg, from The Crazy Crime Wave (YM 019). Perhaps the knack for sleuthing was inherited, though there is some evidence in Crazy Crime Wave that Uncle Howan wasn't all that good of a detective. I think the story says that he had his detective agency for ten years but didn't get his first case until his last year, and, on top of that, died during his first case! Trying to live up to his more skilled detective pops but failed to do so? Anyhow, I know that uncles and aunts aren't included on this tree, but the tree does make the Dawgs the paternal side of the family, which would make Snoopy yet another nickname for Colonel Walter P. "Longjaw" Goofy, who has now had a busy life as a detective, Indian fighter, and pilot!

Private-eye Guy also mentions Goofy's other grandfather, "Snoozy." If everyone else agrees that it makes sense to combine Snoopy with Walter, Walter P., and Colonel Longjaw, then Snoozy would, by process of elimination have to be the same as Ebenezer Goofy. His occupation is not stated. The only thing known about Snoozy from Private-eye Guy is that he was "quite clumsy." I know that old Ebenezer gives off the air of a skilled and steady seaman, but who's to say that he wasn't a bit clumsy, too? The final Goofy grandparent mentioned in Private-eye Guy is "Granny Nanny." Nothing is said of her other than that she was very generous towards her family members. I would probably place her as the wife of Col. Walter P. "Longjaw" "Snoopy" Dawg. If understand correctly, Goofy uses the grandparent name "Grandma" for his maternal grandmother, so perhaps "Granny" is what he called his paternal grandmother. From the tree, it appears that we presently know nothing about Goofy's paternal grandmother, so she might as well become the generous "Nanny Dawg (maiden name unknown... perhaps Pippet, which could probably be translated as Goofett, correct?)

[LP]

Nov 27, 2022 20:55:52 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Nice find, Midget Moose!
But wow, Goofy sure has a lot of grandfathers... That's 7 or 8 of them! At least Donald's grandfathers were somewhat consistent in their portrayals and therefore more easy to merge into one paternal and one maternal grandfather. Goofy's grandfathers on the other hand are all very different. Oh well, what are you gonna do?

At least it's nice that there's now a name for the other grandmother! Although, is "Nanny" even a name? I thought it simply was another word for grandmother... or an occupation.

[TheMidgetMoose]

Nov 27, 2022 21:55:50 GMT LP said:

Nov 27, 2022 20:55:52 GMT TheMidgetMoose said:

Nice find, Midget Moose!
But wow, Goofy sure has a lot of grandfathers... That's 7 or 8 of them! At least Donald's grandfathers were somewhat consistent in their portrayals and therefore more easy to merge into one paternal and one maternal grandfather. Goofy's grandfathers on the other hand are all very different. Oh well, what are you gonna do?

At least it's nice that there's now a name for the other grandmother! Although, is "Nanny" even a name? I thought it simply was another word for grandmother... or an occupation.

Yeah, Goofy's grandfathers are about as consistent as Goofy's own legal name. Of course, it is possible that one could have more than two grandfathers. That's not possible biologically of course, but step-grandfathers can exist. One of Goofy's grandmothers could have remarried after a divorce or after being widowed. Goofy could hypothetically refer to both biological grandfather and step-grandfather as "grandpa." Of course, it's probably still simpler to just mesh all the grandpas up into two composite characters, Captain Ebenezer "Snoozy" Goofy, the sleepy seaman, and Colonel Walter P. "Longjaw" "Snoopy" Dawg, the Native American-fightin', airplane-flyin', ace detective.

Yes, Nanny is/can be another word for grandmother and can also refer to an occupation. I assumed that it was, in this case, a name since she is called "Granny Nanny." That would be a bit redundant, quite like "Grandma Grandmom" or something like that. I mean, it's certainly possible that Goofy's grandmother had two "grandma names," but I find it just as plausible that Nanny is her actual name, at least as much as "Snoopy" and "Snoozy" are the grandfathers' actual names. I suspect that Snoopy and Snoozy are nicknames, and Nanny could be a nickname, too, and not just a nickname that she earned from being a grandmother. U.S. Senator Henry Cabot Lodge's wife was called "Nannie Lodge" for years before she became a grandmother, if my understanding of history is correct. She lived from 1851 to 1915, probably not too far off from when "Granny Nanny" would have lived, though I would guess that Nannie Lodge was born maybe a decade or two earlier than Nanny Dawg. So I think there is some historical precedent for seeing "Nanny" as an actual, non-grandmother-related name/nickname.

[djnyr]

Apologies if this has already been mentioned in this thread (I searched and couldn't find it, but the search function can be wonky here sometimes), but in a Manuel Gonzales Mickey Sunday page from December 11, 1938, Goofy refers to his cousin Cicero, who's evidently a private detective; Goofy mentions that Cicero has been hired to guard the presents at a society wedding.

[hjv]

Hi!

Does anyone in this thread know a story where Mickey och Goofy search for Goofys uncle(?) in Africa and finding him riding on ostriches? I need to find this story and will be grateful if someone can help.

Many thanks in advance
Hjv

[Rrr]

May 18, 2023 10:31:44 GMT hjv said:

Hi!

Does anyone in this thread know a story where Mickey och Goofy search for Goofys uncle(?) in Africa and finding him riding on ostriches? I need to find this story and will be grateful if someone can help.

Many thanks in advance
Hjv

Hi,
The story is:
inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+158-15P

[hjv]

May 18, 2023 12:27:30 GMT Rrr said:

May 18, 2023 10:31:44 GMT hjv said:

Hi!

Does anyone in this thread know a story where Mickey och Goofy search for Goofys uncle(?) in Africa and finding him riding on ostriches? I need to find this story and will be grateful if someone can help.

Many thanks in advance
Hjv

Hi,
The story is:
inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+158-15P

Thank you very much Rrr!

[quiof]

inducks.org/character.php?c1=date&c=Cousin+Goofy+XII&view=4

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inducks.org/character.php?c=GO%27s+uncle+Timmy&view=1

coa.inducks.org/character.php?c=Uncle+Ophal+Dizzy

[sim]

Okay, so, someone sent my this picture. The source is unknown to me or to the person who found it, and I am not sure it comes from an official publication.



But, boy, this Goofy family tree is sure something! I don't think this is recent and I guess it could have been published between mid '90s and 2010s. I wrote that it is interesting because, well, you can see why. Most of the names are made up, but it has some kind of logic. Goofy's parents' surname are "De Pippis" (as Goofy's) and "Pipps" (as his cousin Indiana Pipps aka Arizona Goof), and I am cool with that. What strikes me is that, amongst all the made up characters, we can easily recognize some established ones: Max, George (Jr.), Sport Goofy, Pappo (!), Gilberto, Indiana Pipps, Amos and Ebenezer (!), Tessy (actually, I think she should be his great-aunt) and Pippus Augustus. I also find it amusing that Indiana/Arizona's relatives also have names of US states: Texas and Dakota. 

Because of this "rare" characters being mentioned, I suppose this could have been made by someone who actually knows Goofy's comics and cartoons. Oh and I find it odd that Goof Troop is being generically referenced to as "a '90s series" and not by his title (this and the soft kind of paper made me doubt about the officiality of the tree).

[quiof]

disney-comics.fandom.com/it/wiki/Famiglia_di_Pippo

www.facebook.com/TopolinoMagazine/photos/a.157095838087/10159223618353088/?type=3

[LP]

Feb 2, 2024 18:21:03 GMT sim said:

Okay, so, someone sent my this picture. The source is unknown to me or to the person who found it, and I am not sure it comes from an official publication.

But, boy, this Goofy family tree is sure something! I don't think this is recent and I guess it could have been published between mid '90s and 2010s. I wrote that it is interesting because, well, you can see why. Most of the names are made up, but it has some kind of logic. Goofy's parents' surname are "De Pippis" (as Goofy's) and "Pipps" (as his cousin Indiana Pipps aka Arizona Goof), and I am cool with that. What strikes me is that, amongst all the made up characters, we can easily recognize some established ones: Max, George (Jr.), Sport Goofy, Pappo (!), Gilberto, Indiana Pipps, Amos and Ebenezer (!), Tessy (actually, I think she should be his great-aunt) and Pippus Augustus. I also find it amusing that Indiana/Arizona's relatives also have names of US states: Texas and Dakota. 

Because of this "rare" characters being mentioned, I suppose this could have been made by someone who actually knows Goofy's comics and cartoons. Oh and I find it odd that Goof Troop is being generically referenced to as "a '90s series" and not by his title (this and the soft kind of paper made me doubt about the officiality of the tree).

That's a pretty cool find even though, as you say, it doesn't seem to be official. Hopefully we'll learn more about it in the future!

I always find it very frustrating whenever the name "Amos" is incorrectly linked to Goofy's father. I blame the Disney Wiki.

[That Duckfan]

The map in A Goofy Movie reads as follows:

This map belongs to
Walter P. Goofey
Benjamin Goofey
all Goofeys