Post by Scrooge MacDuck on Jul 7, 2023 17:09:49 GMT
I will be the first one to agree that there were superhero influences in many plot elements — and I'll definitely grant you the climax with a giant portal was distinctly superheroish, though of course it's also James Bond tradition for the villains to have some kind of an outrageous doomsday device in the final act: SPECTRE's leader once threatened to destroy major cities from orbit using a giant laser made of diamonds… But I really think you're seeing things with regards to Bradford Buzzard's infiltration of SHUSH and McDuck Industries being a take-off on some Captain America plot point.
Ye cats, double agents are one of the most obvious thing you do in an extended "spy" story; if James Bond never did it, that is if nothing else a function of the degree to which they're not quite spy stories half the time. (And even then, the Daniel Craig Specter nearly pulled that trigger by revealing Ralph Fiennes's M as a Spectre plant, with only Fiennes's reluctance preventing things from going that route.) If we'd been dealing with doppelgangers or shapeshifters or clones, you'd have a better case, but a straight case of "boring office guy was actually an evil mastermind working for the other side" seems not at all germane to superhero fiction.
Is a fanboy trying to be Adam West's Batman for real more or less funny than a parody of the same who, within his own universe, invented all the faux-Batman gimmicks independently? I don't know. Probably the "literal cosplayer trying to act out a literal campy TV show" joke is blunter. But I wouldn't say the DT17 iteration is an unfunny premise in itself, by any means.
Finally…
…Here I'm rather puzzled. The lack of much Darkwing/Gosalyn content seems to me to just be a product of their first meeting being the last we got to see of the DT17 St. Canard cast. Everything about Let's Get Dangerous is screaming that Drake is becoming a substitute parental figure to Gosalyn faster than either of them even realise (recall Drake staying up all night trying to help her). There is no doubt in my mind that if Angones got his DT17-verse Darkwing spin-off handed on a silver platter, it would spend a lot of time on a Drake/Gosalyn father-daughter relationship following on from these beginnings. Sure, Drake's a bit younger and Gosalyn's a bit older, but I think in the right hands there is no reason you can't tell a very moving adoption story with an adoptive father in his late 20s and an already-teenaged adoptee.
(Oh, I think you, or someone else, complained earlier about Prof. Waddlemayer not really being dead in this continuity, but Let's Get Dangerous! is very clear that he is Irretrievably Lost, which is just fidgety-Disney-censors-ese for dead — "in a better world", don't you know — and is the same in practical in-universe terms besides: dead or not, Gosalyn's caretaker is missing and she'll never see him again, ergo we've got a kid in need of adopting.)
Granted, perhaps I'm overinterpreting you and you're just complaining about the sheer fact that we spent so much time with a 'young', pre-Gosalyn Darkwing, instead of jumping right in with him meeting her, as the original series did. The Surf Dracula problem, as it were (does anybody get that reference?). Which doesn't bother me insofar as the Darkwing Origins were running in the background of a show to which he is not the focus, instead of trying to make Darkwing Duck Without Gosalyn truly work as a status-quo; but mileages may fairly vary. The Surf Dracula Problem is annoying.
Ye cats, double agents are one of the most obvious thing you do in an extended "spy" story; if James Bond never did it, that is if nothing else a function of the degree to which they're not quite spy stories half the time. (And even then, the Daniel Craig Specter nearly pulled that trigger by revealing Ralph Fiennes's M as a Spectre plant, with only Fiennes's reluctance preventing things from going that route.) If we'd been dealing with doppelgangers or shapeshifters or clones, you'd have a better case, but a straight case of "boring office guy was actually an evil mastermind working for the other side" seems not at all germane to superhero fiction.
Is a fanboy trying to be Adam West's Batman for real more or less funny than a parody of the same who, within his own universe, invented all the faux-Batman gimmicks independently? I don't know. Probably the "literal cosplayer trying to act out a literal campy TV show" joke is blunter. But I wouldn't say the DT17 iteration is an unfunny premise in itself, by any means.
Finally…
and (even worse) take away his family bond with Gosalyn,
(Oh, I think you, or someone else, complained earlier about Prof. Waddlemayer not really being dead in this continuity, but Let's Get Dangerous! is very clear that he is Irretrievably Lost, which is just fidgety-Disney-censors-ese for dead — "in a better world", don't you know — and is the same in practical in-universe terms besides: dead or not, Gosalyn's caretaker is missing and she'll never see him again, ergo we've got a kid in need of adopting.)
Granted, perhaps I'm overinterpreting you and you're just complaining about the sheer fact that we spent so much time with a 'young', pre-Gosalyn Darkwing, instead of jumping right in with him meeting her, as the original series did. The Surf Dracula problem, as it were (does anybody get that reference?). Which doesn't bother me insofar as the Darkwing Origins were running in the background of a show to which he is not the focus, instead of trying to make Darkwing Duck Without Gosalyn truly work as a status-quo; but mileages may fairly vary. The Surf Dracula Problem is annoying.