Ducktales 2017

[rwb]

I love the look of this. The slight change to each of the triplets and Webby to make them stand out more from eachother is a nice thing. I also like the way they sorta "colorcoded" the characters, so that each, excluding Scrooge, have their own color and don't share them with the others. Even with Scrooge sharing colors with Huey, they still sorta managed to make that work by making him the only triplet with a hat that separates him colorwise from Scrooge. I kinda sorta agree that having no blue on donald seems off, but it seems they wanted to go with both the more barksian black costume while still paying tribute to old Ducktales Donald(with the hat).

As for the triplets looking older, I dunno if I agree. They look the same general age, they just have more noticeable design differences now(something Quack Pack did and we therefore might associate with them being older).

I do hope to see some of the european library of ducks(like Rockerduck) in this new series, but I realize it may not be likely to happen and won't fault the series for it.

[Scrooge MacDuck]

As I said, it's not that I was a hardcore fan of the original Webby. It's just… if they're just gonna use the basic concept of "female duck who tags along with the gang", why do they need her to be a rebooted Webby ? Why can't they just created another character, rather than totally rewrite her into something that she isn't ? I feel about kinda like what some Looney Tunes fans feel about the "Looney Tunes Show" version fo Lola Bunny. It's not that the original was totally great, or that the new version isn't enjoyable in its own right. It's just… what was the point of naming her Lola Bunny? If they needed a dizzy female rabbit, which Lola was not at all, why make her Lola? Why not just create someone else ? It's the same thing here.

[squeakyboots]

To be fair, how is that much different than the nephews (both in the original DuckTales and the comics) being so drastically different from their typical animated appearances? We don't even know anything about this new Webby's personality, just what she looks like. If they had created a new character to replace, they would just end up with a swarm of people asking where Webby is.

[edge]

I think a full-blown reboot is the best idea as the series won't have to align to stories from 30 years ago. A fresh start is the way to go.

For me it's all about storylines. If the writing is good, I generally feel like everything else will fall into place.

As for the design, I'm reminded of how the design for Batman The Animated Series was initially met with negative reactions from fans only to become iconic and valued for its unique interpretation.

[edge]

Mar 10, 2016 3:03:37 GMT Matilda said:

I'm pretty happy with this picture, for what it's worth. Yes, HDL look a little older to me than they did in DuckTales, but not older than they sometimes seem by their actions in the comics. If that's Webby, she does indeed look older and different (yup, I at first thought she was wearing glasses, too)--and I'm fine with that. Webby sometimes came off well in the first series, but I'd be happy to have her character reworked so she's not quite so young, innocent, sweet, and cute. Gosalyn was *so* much better a character!

I'm also happy that Dewey is consulting the Guidebook and not a smartphone. Now, if only Magica De Spell turns out to have a slight *Italian* accent....

My real worry is how I'm ever going to see this new iteration of DuckTales, since I don't even have a cable hook-up of any kind!

I do hope that the coming of the new DuckTales spurs the Corporate Mouse to release the remaining episodes of the original DuckTales on DVD. I want Ducky Mountain High! And Trala La!

I've been hoping for a final volume for Ducktales, Rescue Rangers and Gummie Bears for almost a decade now. I'm about beyond hope.

Don't understand why they don't just do a MOD like Warner or a movie club release like Talespin.

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Mar 11, 2016 2:08:14 GMT edge said:

I think a full-blown reboot is the best idea as the series won't have to align to stories from 30 years ago. A fresh start is the way to go.

I really, really, really don't agree. I couldn't agree any less. Consistency is a very important thing for me (there's a reason I love all the references Don Rosa makes and his historical details in Life and Times)! If they are intending it as a reboot, I just hope they won't put too many inconsistencies, so I can work up a headcanon of how it can fit with the new series.

I do however agree that the storylines are primary, and the art style secondary. 

Squeakyboots, Launchpad McQuack is as good and memorable a character as Webby, and he has quite a fanbase as far as DuckTales go. Them kicking out him but not Webby seems… weird, since they're quite as likely to get angry fan mail about his disappearance as about hers. (Well, to be fair, he might be in the show, since this is just a single concept art, but the fact that he's apparently not adventuring with the ducks implies that he probably won't be one of the primary members of the gang like he used to be.) 

And no one has really given me an answer to this question I had: do you think that if the new Darkwing Duck comics have their own version of the DuckTales crossover, they will use the old design, or this new season's one ?

[squeakyboots]

For the record, not every piece of promotional artwork from the original show featured Launchpad either. There were some that only showed Scrooge and the nephews.

This D23 article confirms that Launchpad will be appearing as well as Duckworth, Gyro, Glomgold, Magica, the Beagle Boys and Ma Beagle, and Mrs. Beakley.
d23.com/woo-hoo-new-ducktales-coming-disney-xd-2017/

As for whether the Darkwing Duck comic would use these designs in a crossover, that's likely up to whatever Disney would want them to do. Though the announcement of this new show was apparently what caused the comic to be delayed. (It was supposed to have started last year.) It doesn't look like they did anything to Launchpad's design in the comic from what I can tell. I would think it would be at least a little while before a crossover happens in the new comic.

[The KKM]

I'd imagine they wouldn't be allowed to do a crossover for a while after Boom messed everything up, but in the sense of integrating Ducktales characters into the Darkwing Duck comic, they'll likely keep the old style.

[rwb]

Mar 10, 2016 18:43:28 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

As I said, it's not that I was a hardcore fan of the original Webby. It's just… if they're just gonna use the basic concept of "female duck who tags along with the gang", why do they need her to be a rebooted Webby ? Why can't they just created another character, rather than totally rewrite her into something that she isn't ? I feel about kinda like what some Looney Tunes fans feel about the "Looney Tunes Show" version fo Lola Bunny. It's not that the original was totally great, or that the new version isn't enjoyable in its own right. It's just… what was the point of naming her Lola Bunny? If they needed a dizzy female rabbit, which Lola was not at all, why make her Lola? Why not just create someone else ? It's the same thing here.

About the bolded: ...what? We have no idea if they are actually changing Webby's role at all. I personally would like it if they do because I found her annoying, but a slightly changed look=/= new personality.

About the italic: It really isn't, until we know they changed her personality and not just the look.


Also, for "why can't they", the simple answer to that is marketing/brand awareness. If they replaced Webby with Dickie Duck, who would know who Dickie is? Not many, and she'd be an advertising millstone- unless they somehow are lucky and fans are overall happy with it, and new non-fans are intrigued by the change up, but that's way too big a risk.

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Mar 12, 2016 9:21:50 GMT rwb said:

About the bolded: ...what? We have no idea if they are actually changing Webby's role at all. I personally would like it if they do because I found her annoying, but a slightly changed look=/= new personality.

If this was any other character instead of Webby, your point would stand. However, ninety percent of Webby's character trait revolved around the fact that she's a very young girl, almost a toddler. What will be left of her character if they age her up ? The only thing I see that aren't directly linked to her youth are her love of animals, and her moralizing side toward Scrooge, but the latter, which was endearing from a little girl, will look weird from a teenager.

[squeakyboots]

Was Webby supposed to be a toddler? I always took her as being around the same age as the nephews. The new version looks young enough to me. There hasn't been anything saying that the kids are being aged up anyways.

[rwb]

Mar 12, 2016 10:04:25 GMT Scrooge MacDuck said:

Mar 12, 2016 9:21:50 GMT rwb said:

About the bolded: ...what? We have no idea if they are actually changing Webby's role at all. I personally would like it if they do because I found her annoying, but a slightly changed look=/= new personality.

If this was any other character instead of Webby, your point would stand. However, ninety percent of Webby's character trait revolved around the fact that she's a very young girl, almost a toddler. What will be left of her character if they age her up ? The only thing I see that aren't directly linked to her youth are her love of animals, and her moralizing side toward Scrooge, but the latter, which was endearing from a little girl, will look weird from a teenager.

You're still wrong, though. Webby was a young girl- just like the nephews were young boys(portrayed just as young and childish, just in the "adventurous boys" style). In fact, she was less than an inch shorter in real-life terms.

Also, according to the wikis:

"Webbigail "Webby" Vanderquack is the granddaughter of Betina Beakley. She is the same age as Huey, Dewey, and Louie."

Neither the boys nor Webby are implied to have changed age at all, and there's NOTHING to suggest they are being portrayed as teenagers. Even then, Webby's character traits were not tied to her young age nearly as hard as you claim, they were more tied to her being a girly girl(and the opposite of rough and tumble like a boy), something she could still be even if they aged her into a teenager.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

A Webby who's a little less Lisa Simpson, a little more Louise Belcher, would be fine with me.

[Matilda]

Hmmm, they say Webby's the same age as HDL, huh? I'm trying to think of the things that have made me think she was younger, aside from just the infantilization of girly girls. I remember HDL riding bikes while Webby was riding a Big Wheel (three-wheeler, tricycle)--that definitely made her seem like a preschooler.

[edge]

I always felt it was implied that Webby was a little younger than the boys. I never quite took her as a toddler - but maybe about 5 or 6? Making the boys about 8-10.

I'd like to see her a little more fleshed out and older as it'll make for a more interesting character.

In the picture, all the kids could still be pre-teens. I don't think they look considerably older.