WOW! A great episode, with many funny moments and wonderfull use of Gladstone with some nice twists.
Paul F. Tmpkins was great voice for Gladstone (and at time felt very similiar Rob Paulsen, epsecialy the "Thanks Scroogedriver McDolarsign" line) He was more jekry then the old Duck Tales version but never cross the line when you despise him like in some Barks stories.
On one hand he was ready to bit Donald in the challange on the end just to escape, but at the end when the spirit took Donald away he was ready to try to save him with the kids. BTW -> That trick Scrooge pooled was pretty clever.
I love the part when Gladstone is trying to lose but can't help it and montage of him and Donald growing up was brilliant (especialy the Beagle Boy cameo)
I also thought this depiction of Gladstone managed to strike an almost perfect balance. You still want to punch him and see Donald triumph (specially considering how decent this incarnation of Donald is) but I could enjoy his jerkiness and ridiculous good fortune as well, unlike in Rosa and Bark's stories where sometimes Gladstone is impossible to digest (no pun intended).
Here he is smug, narcissistic and selfish but not outright sadistic. He asking Scrooge what they are going to do to save Donald was his only moment of true selflessness but I think it worked fine to give him a tiny bit of sympathy. Hell, he seems more distressed about it than Huey, Dewey and Webby who all stand idly without a shred of indignation. I know the focus was on Louie but it is kind of weird to see the kids react so uninterested about the fate of their surrogate father/friend. Maybe they hadn't processed everything that happened yet because the ploy worked after mere seconds and Donald was free again.
Are you all expecting a cameo, a minor role or the "Rockerduck Estates" in the map was just an Easter egg?
Yeah, Gottrocks, the older one, has cool design. I don't enjoy Strobl's simple style but this one character is an exception. Hope he shows up in a cameo or something, along with all the other billionaires mentioned.
WOW! A great episode, with many funny moments and wonderfull use of Gladstone with some nice twists.
Paul F. Tmpkins was great voice for Gladstone (and at time felt very similiar Rob Paulsen, epsecialy the "Thanks Scroogedriver McDolarsign" line) He was more jekry then the old Duck Tales version but never cross the line when you despise him like in some Barks stories.
On one hand he was ready to bit Donald in the challange on the end just to escape, but at the end when the spirit took Donald away he was ready to try to save him with the kids. BTW -> That trick Scrooge pooled was pretty clever.
I love the part when Gladstone is trying to lose but can't help it and montage of him and Donald growing up was brilliant (especialy the Beagle Boy cameo)
I also thought this depiction of Gladstone managed to strike an almost perfect balance. You still want to punch him and see Donald triumph (specially considering how decent this incarnation of Donald is) but I could enjoy his jerkiness and ridiculous good fortune as well, unlike in Rosa and Bark's stories where sometimes Gladstone is impossible to digest (no pun intended).
Here he is smug, narcissistic and selfish but not outright sadistic. He asking Scrooge what they are going to do to save Donald was his only moment of true selflessness but I think it worked fine to give him a tiny bit of sympathy. Hell, he seems more distressed about it than Huey, Dewey and Webby who all stand idly without a shred of indignation. I know the focus was on Louie but it is kind of weird to see the kids react so uninterested about the fate of their surrogate father/friend. Maybe they hadn't processed everything that happened yet because the ploy worked after mere seconds and Donald was free again.
There's a couple of parts of the plot I still don't quite understand. Gladstone is being held prisoner by Toad Liu Hai, who wants to feed off his luck, so Gladstone wants Donald around because his bad luck will ... what exactly? He says he thought Donald would "break his lucky streak", but it's been demonstrated clearly in the flashbacks (and in the comics) that Donald's misfortunes only accentuate and facilitate Gladstone's luck, so Donald being around should make Gladstone even more desirable to Toad Liu Hai. Also, when Toad Liu Hai expresses his desire to hold Scrooge captive because he believes the richest man in the world must be possessed of incredible luck, Scrooge retorts (appropriately for his character) that luck has nothing to do with his success. So they decide to settle it by ... holding a contest that depends on Scrooge being lucky to win? Did Scrooge intend to deliberately lose so as prove Toad Liu Hai wrong, even if it meant losing his freedom?
Also: it's Maharajah of Howduyustan, which I always assumed was Barks' pun on "how do you stand", but that's not very amusing or intuitive, so I wondered if I was missing something.
Toad Liu Hai is apparently a parody of Liu Hai, one of the Eight Immortals. In the original story he was in fact a human (who later became immoral), and Master Sea-Toad is his nickname.
Thanks for the link!
I like the little detail that Scrooge called him "Liu Hai" rather than "Liu", since the former one is more natural to address a Chinese. I understand why people use surname alone, but that sounds very weird (for a Chinese surname) every time I hear it (unless you use it with a title, like Mr. Surname or Ms. Surname, but that would be too formal in most of the cases).
For the contest, I think the toad did believe Scrooge's luck is stronger, that's why he didn't pick Scrooge to run the game.
Yes, but Scrooge didn't know he was going to do that. Toad Liu Hai's contention was that Scrooge was lucky, which Scrooge vehemently objected to, but then agreed to test via a game of chance ... if Scrooge won the game, he would essentially lose the argument.
For the contest, I think the toad did believe Scrooge's luck is stronger, that's why he didn't pick Scrooge to run the game.
Yes, but Scrooge didn't know he was going to do that. Toad Liu Hai's contention was that Scrooge was lucky, which Scrooge vehemently objected to, but then agreed to test via a game of chance ... if Scrooge won the game, he would essentially lose the argument.
I see what you meant. I think Scrooge's point is "I can win without being lucky", but for the Toad it's like "if you win that's because you are more lucky". It's more like a Floyd type of argument that can explain everything, despite whatever happened. So maybe Scrooge thought he could show Liu Hai he was not that lucky but still could win during the contest, as we saw what happened between Donald and Gladstone: Donald won, but we can see he's not lucky.
From my undestanding - Scrooge wanted to show Toad that he can win in the contest by using his SKILLS not LUCK. Donald prove the same point as he won with Gladstone by determination and not by chance...
...well, technically you can argue that Gladston lost cose he stop to pick the momeny but you can argue at the same time Gladstone lost by puting to much fate in his luck.
It's sort of Aesop Tortoise vs. Hare type of tory, when the Hare lost the race as he was so confident in wining he stop in the middle of the lest to take a nap which gave Tortoise enough advantage to win.
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I think Gladstone's assessment at the end was correct: He lost because him losing was led to the most positive outcome -- Toad Liu Hai deciding that Donald was the luckier one and letting Gladstone go.
We've seen time and again in the comics that Gladstone's luck might cause him to lose a contest if it turns out winning was not the most desirable outcome. That's why there was suddenly a twenty-dollar bill in his way; it caused him not only to lose the challenge but also made sure he had the spending money for the boat at the end of the episode.
Of course, Gladstone was wrong too, when he tried taking credit for everyone being freed: Scrooge's cunning and Donald's determinism were what really won the day in the end. Gladstone's luck simply capitalised upon them.
Disney released not one but TWO clips showingof Mark Beaks.
Knowing the in-joke loving showrunners I wonder if Billonare club equals cameos by Rockerduck, Maharaja of Howdoyoudostan, Tallgras Longhorn, or Millonera Vanderbuck
That would be cool, though the Maharaja went broke at the end of his story. I think a cameo by Gotrocks would be cool, also.
Re: the Maharajah: Barks used a similarly-designed Maharajah in several later stories, including that "running tiger" one, whom INDUCKS (and most readers) count as the same character, much like the various instances of McSwine under different names.
Are you all expecting a cameo, a minor role or the "Rockerduck Estates" in the map was just an Easter egg?
I would love to see Rockerduck in animation and play some sort of role but cameo would do just fine. "Rockerduck Estates" might sugest that the creators are actualy intrest in using him.
P.S. Did only I got a Déjà vu?
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I think that guy doesn't quite know what he's talking about. Even I know that the unnanounced Huey episode was moved to December, because apparently it was winter-themed, and has nothing to do with summer camp or whatever. It has less to do with Disney XD going "Durrrrr, kids are stooopid" and more with Disney XD going "okay, this episode has snow, we'll air that closer to Christmas. Oh, and this episode is kinda spooky; better air that in October so it can be our Halloween show."
Then again, this was the guy who insisted that Darkwing Duck couldn't be in the show because he'd take over and it'd mean Launchpad couldn't be on Ducktales anymore, spending a lot of time speculating on how the show would obviously introduce Gosalyn while her father was still alive, and that would be the DW connection... not to mention he was the guy who thought the show would reveal that Scrooge was a former secret agent of SHUSH.
I mean... I'm all for new ideas, but... come ON! Scrooge as a secret agent?! I could see him financially aiding SHUSH or running a secret agency (he's done that in the comics, after all), but an agent? As in "reporting to and getting missions from a higher authority"? SCROOGE!?
I think that guy doesn't quite know what he's talking about. Even I know that the unnanounced Huey episode was moved to December, because apparently it was winter-themed, and has nothing to do with summer camp or whatever. It has less to do with Disney XD going "Durrrrr, kids are stooopid" and more with Disney XD going "okay, this episode has snow, we'll air that closer to Christmas. Oh, and this episode is kinda spooky; better air that in October so it can be our Halloween show."
Regardless, he does have a point in that airing episodes out of order, especially in a series where the creators have gone to such lengths to develop an overarching storyline, is a practice that should be discouraged. If he's right that it was done to keep the Della/Magica subplots in viewers' minds, then using the "recap" method (10 second sequences featuring key scenes from previous episodes to refresh the viewers' memories about relevant plot details) could be employed. The idea that, for example, the "unnamed Huey episode" was moved because it had snow and so should be aired in December is silly, IMHO. It's not as if viewers are going to watch the episode in September and say, "Hey, what's that white stuff on the ground?" Does every series need to have a "Christmas episode" or a "Halloween episode?" You can tell from his tweets that Angones is trying to restrain himself in his response to the altered air order, but he's understandably unhappy.
