Ducktales 2017

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This might be one of my favourite episodes next to The House of the Lucky Gander and Wohoo, although I think it would have been better without the Supernatural elements. It seems like it just existed to make the mountain unclimbable, which could just as easily be accomplished without portals. I'd have preferred if they merely alluded to the possibility that the mountain was "stopping them from reaching the peak" rather than outright showing it.

Curious that Scrooge first tried to climb the peak 75 years ago after earning his first million. That'd place his Klondike years in the 40s wouldn't it? And it makes Scrooge well over 90.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Dec 3, 2017 18:49:14 GMT @aesir said:

This might be one of my favourite episodes next to The House of the Lucky Gander and Wohoo, although I think it would have been better without the Supernatural elements. It seems like it just existed to make the mountain unclimbable, which could just as easily be accomplished without portals. I'd have preferred if they merely alluded to the possibility that the mountain was "stopping them from reaching the peak" rather than outright showing it.

Curious that Scrooge first tried to climb the peak 75 years ago after earning his first million. That'd place his Klondike years in the 40s wouldn't it? And it makes Scrooge well over 90.

Agree about the supernatural element, but that seems to be a fundamental pillar of this show, despite not being a major part of the original or the comics. I don't like it either, but it's been there since the very first episode.
Additionally, I can't think of many other instances where Scrooge is embarking on an adventure purely for the thrill of it, with no profit to be had. Scrooge is fundamentally a treasure-hunter, not a daredevil explorer (except, it appears, in DuckTales '17).

[Scrooge MacDuck]

Dec 3, 2017 20:04:56 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Additionally, I can't think of many other instances where Scrooge is embarking on an adventure purely for the thrill of it, with no profit to be had. Scrooge is fundamentally a treasure-hunter, not a daredevil explorer (except, it appears, in DuckTales '17).

Well yes, it was in the early promotional materials already — possibly because of how an overtly capitalist main character could be seen as "problematic" in this era of PCness, especially with the whole Donald Trump thing, they decided as a conscious change to tone down Scrooge's greed and, as Angones put it, to make him "more of an adventure junkie than a gold addict". 

[Pan Maciej]

To be fair they to try to have a joke about how cheap is Scooge at least once per episode (in this episode for example he narraters in the flash-back he didn't wanted to let go of his belt as there was so money in it)

Yhe, geting to the top for the sake of it felt odd at first, but when we learn it was more a metter of personal honor which is more in character with Scrooge.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Dec 3, 2017 21:02:30 GMT Pan Maciej said:

Yhe, geting to the top for the sake of it felt odd at first, but when we learn it was more a metter of personal honor which is more in character with Scrooge.

It isn't made clear in the episode why Scrooge wanted Mallardy to guide him to the top of the mountain "75 years ago" either. Was that as part of a treasure hunt, or yet another thrill-seeking enterprise?
Barks' Scrooge, best I can recall, never set forth on an expedition unless there was a prize to be had. The "adventure" was more of a byproduct of the treasure hunt. Rosa imbued Scrooge with a greater degree of sentimentalism, giving him a memory chest and a storage room for his mementos where he would often reminisce, but still left the passion for the raw pursuit of adventure to HD&L. I suppose I can see why DuckTales '17 made this fundamental change to Scrooge's character, but his new "adventure-for-adventure's sake" persona is still a bit jarring.

[Hyaroo]

This was definitely the best use of Scrooge the series has had for a while. He got some really great lines in this, and you got a bigger sense of what this incarnation of the character is about.

The Scrooge of this series, while still greedy and money-obsessed, is more likely than the classic one to seek out danger and excitement just for the hell of it, even if there isn't a huge treasure at the end. Might seem a little jarring for us who have grown up with Scrooge as the ultimate cheapskate whose main concern is profit, but... really, thinking about it, the change isn't as huge as it might seem. It means a slight change in priorities, sure, but it still means he'll drag his family along on wild and dangerous adventures with little concern for their safety. He's still the self-centered and selfish jerk-with-a-heart-of-gold he's always been, it's just that compared to his classic incarnation he's more about the journey than the end goal.

It's actually a fairly logical step to take the character in after Don Rosa's take on him... it was Rosa who introduced the idea (and sometimes he repeatedly beat it over our heads!) that Scrooge's real wealth wasn't the three cubic acres of money or the many mines and businesses, but the well of memories and adventures he'd accumulated after a long life. This Scrooge has simply realised that and admits it more openly. 

And, while he might be slightly less stingy when it comes to expenses... I do notice that even classic Scrooge paid Donald and the kids to come along, even if the wages were small. I don't think this one pays them anything, apart from that dime he once paid Louie. Why should he? He gives them room and board, that's more than enough payment and certainly entitles him to take them along on any expedition and treasure hunt he might feel up for this week.

Though... did anyone at all NOT see the twist that Scrooge was the Neverrest Ninny coming from a mile away?

[Baar Baar Jinx]

From Angones' Twitter feed:

#DuckTales is off for a little while, but we'll return with new heroes, old rivals, deep secrets, sinister schemes, familiar faces, strange new places, and the triumphant return of our dumbest character ever. And before that we'll have some pretty cool news for you, too.

Does anyone know when the next new episode will air? And does that "dumbest character ever" comment mean that Bubba will appear after all?

[Minotaur]

Dec 4, 2017 13:56:29 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

From Angones' Twitter feed:

#DuckTales is off for a little while, but we'll return with new heroes, old rivals, deep secrets, sinister schemes, familiar faces, strange new places, and the triumphant return of our dumbest character ever. And before that we'll have some pretty cool news for you, too.

Does anyone know when the next new episode will air? And does that "dumbest character ever" comment mean that Bubba will appear after all?

Edit: OK, we won't have Ducktales for December and January... 

Not sure for the second question, and tbh I don't really want to know...

[Pan Maciej]

Dec 4, 2017 13:56:29 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

Does anyone know when the next new episode will air? And does that "dumbest character ever" comment mean that Bubba will appear after all?

Well I don't know when the new episode will air but there was a leak on you-tube of a 3-minute clip for episode (I think it was titled "Mystery at McDuck Manor" - something like that) The clip was on-line for few hours before it was deleted. I can only asume it will be a next episode to air.


SPOILERS - In the clip HD&L where throwing Scrooge a costume birthday party and they had some stage magician come over.  Ma Beagle, Glomgold and Mark Beaks where all seen at the party in costumes. From what I recall there was some crime comited in the manor and from my understanding all the villians will be suspected. I did had a Agatha Christie "who did it?" mystery vibe to it and I belive that the party had a mystery-theme. Scrooge was extra-grumpy in the clip. 

EASTER EGG SPOILER -  Duckworth made a cameo on Scrooge's paiting (he had his desing from the old show) 

SPOILERS - OUT.


As for Bubba (who I still like more then Doofus) - I think he makes a cameo in the pilot as cave-duck sceleton. He do have a triceratops next to him...  

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Dec 4, 2017 15:02:51 GMT Pan Maciej said:

As for Bubba (who I still like more then Doofus) - I think he makes a cameo in the pilot as cave-duck sceleton. He do have a triceratops next to him...

I read somewhere that Doofus was going to be "evil" somehow in this universe ... anyone have any information about that, or was that a kooky fan theory (not that I care about Doofus, Bubba or even Duckworth, you understand)?

[Pan Maciej]

Dec 4, 2017 19:04:11 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

 (not that I care about Doofus, Bubba or even Duckworth, you understand)

I once didn't cared for Webby and the show turn her into character I like and finally found relatable so I wonder will they manage to do the same for Doofus and Bubba  

[Hyaroo]

Dec 4, 2017 19:04:11 GMT Baar Baar Jinx said:

I read somewhere that Doofus was going to be "evil" somehow in this universe ... anyone have any information about that, or was that a kooky fan theory (not that I care about Doofus, Bubba or even Duckworth, you understand)?

It's from a "behind-the-scenes" movie from ABC... you can see it here. Around the 00:40 mark we get to see a scene from the writing room, and on the wall you can see pictures of the characters, listed under "main characters," "recurring characters" and so on. It's a little hard to see since the camera moves, the focus is on the people and not the drawings in the background, and pausing the video blackens the screen... but Doofus is listed, by name and picture, in the "villains" section. 

[Pan Maciej]

Aside from Von Drake and Scrooge's parents I notice "Zeus".. I guess we get an ancient Grecee-themed episode.

[Baar Baar Jinx]

Dec 4, 2017 21:15:32 GMT Pan Maciej said:

Aside from Von Drake and Scrooge's parents I notice "Zeus".. I guess we get an ancient Grecee-themed episode.

Is someone able to post a still showing these characters listed? Pausing the video darkens the screen.

[dismaldowns]

Besides Doofus as a villain we have interesting things in that "behind the scenes":

Bradford Buzzard and the other two vultures are villains as well. While they can be seen as antagonists in The Great Dime Chase so far they have done nothing villainous. They are cold, cutthroat businessmen, pretty unsympathetic type of people if you ask me but Scrooge was one as well in the original comics. Will they eventually turn into straight up bad guys or their obvious unpleasantness and cheapness is enough to put them in such category? Not complaining, just asking what you guys think.

Fenton's mother is a police officer.

The Big Foot from Huey short is a villain in the actual series.

Baby Dewey for some reason is a main character separate from Dewey in present day.

Selene will appear either in flashback or present day.

Von Drake is listed among the globetrotters, not as a recurring character like Gladstone and Darkwing Duck. Seems like we will have him for just one episode. Which is sad for me because I always thought he fits very well in the duck universe.

Informative reddit post about this subject:


www.google.com.br/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/ducktales/comments/6tmfen/future_spoilers_notable_points_that_we_can_see_on/