Some duck ancestors are seen (with birth and death dates!) in a 2-page editorial published in the Brazilian Tio Patinhas 329.
I recognized "Patrasco" (who lived for more than two centuries!), and I think I recall his English name was Francis Duck. Sir Glutonius Patinhas, though redrawn, reminds me of Rota's Mac Paperin/Andold and Patinius reminds me of Petronius Paperonius from Martina's saga, but he actually lived for more than 58 years. I don't know if the other ancestors are original concepts.
Ps. Rip Sir Ildo Patinhas who died at the age of twenty (
Some duck ancestors are seen (with birth and death dates!) in a 2-page editorial published in the Brazilian Tio Patinhas 329.
I recognized "Patrasco" (who lived for more than two centuries!), and I think I recall his English name was Francis Duck. Sir Glutonius Patinhas, though redrawn, reminds me of Rota's Mac Paperin/Andold and Patinius reminds me of Petronius Paperonius from Martina's saga, but he actually lived for more than 58 years. I don't know if the other ancestors are original concepts.
Ps. Rip Sir Ildo Patinhas who died at the age of twenty (
Artur mac Pato was already mentioned in his original story, in a precedent post. I've only read his italian translation, but there he is called Artù mcMilliard.
* Mick McMerganser & lady friend: inducks.org/story.php?c=D++7156&search=McMerganser (also not totally sure)
Of this I've the first italian translation, so I cannot confirm the original intent of the author. This story is full of really distant relatives of the Scrooge. As he said in the first page, he eredited the castle of the mcMiliard after the death of the last direct heir, and since the mcMiliard and de' Paperoni(it. for mcDuck) are distant relatives, he got all. - baron Haggis mcMiliard, lived 200 years ago and moved to Duckburg, with his castle - her consort?, she appeared in only one panel and call him "caro"(=dear) - Artù mcMiliard, portrait - Merlino mcMiliard, portrait - Macbeth mcMiliard, portrait - duke Orange du Canard, from the french branch of the family (connected to the two de Canard that already are in the tree?) - viscount de la Grande Bouche, from the same french branch Those are the italian translation, so it would be necessary to track the original, or the Gladstone translation to have the ufficial names. But I think that the original gist is the same
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For now imgur is giving me problem to upload, so I will add the images that aren't in the posts when it will work again. Edit: now it works. I've added the relatives here
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Timewise Patinius can't be the PAH-PEH-RHEO/Petronivs Paperonivs, because he lived "2500 years ago", so ~500 b.C.
Timewise Patinius can't be the PAH-PEH-RHEO/Petronivs Paperonivs, because he lived "2500 years ago", so ~500 b.C.
That was exactly what I was thinking! Well, he actually lived "2500 years ago", but then moved to Rome in gladiators time (many centuries later), and then again to Scotland (Caledonia), and this piece of info coincides with the short bio published on Tio Patinhas.
Xa Patinhas seems to be based on Barks' King Scrooge the First ancestor.
Timewise Patinius can't be the PAH-PEH-RHEO/Petronivs Paperonivs, because he lived "2500 years ago", so ~500 b.C.
That was exactly what I was thinking! Well, he actually lived "2500 years ago", but then moved to Rome in gladiators time (many centuries later), and then again to Scotland (Caledonia), and this piece of info coincides with the short bio published on Tio Patinhas.
It's a shame that the chronology of Pah-Peh-Rheo/Petronivs Paperonivs is so inconsistent! If only he'd been an uncle of Cleopatra VII, it would've worked out just fine...
Timewise Patinius can't be the PAH-PEH-RHEO/Petronivs Paperonivs, because he lived "2500 years ago", so ~500 b.C.
That was exactly what I was thinking! Well, he actually lived "2500 years ago", but then moved to Rome in gladiators time (many centuries later), and then again to Scotland (Caledonia), and this piece of info coincides with the short bio published on Tio Patinhas.
Seem improbable to me that he lived for centuries, especially because almost every character from the egyptian story were alive in the roman ones (HDL clones, DD-clone, the BB from egypt, Gyro ancestor).
Pluse the article says that Patinius followed Julio Cesar in his campaign to Caledonia. In Martina's Saga, the emperor Caivs Jvlivs Caesar Pippvs Avgvstvs tried to invade the Caledonia, but failed. So it isn't impossible to think that centuries later, another roman emperor tried to conquer the Caledonia, bringing with him another ancestor of the duck family (there have been a lot of stories of duck ancestors residing in Rome, not just "Storia e Gloria")
That was exactly what I was thinking! Well, he actually lived "2500 years ago", but then moved to Rome in gladiators time (many centuries later), and then again to Scotland (Caledonia), and this piece of info coincides with the short bio published on Tio Patinhas.
It's a shame that the chronology of Pah-Peh-Rheo/Petronivs Paperonivs is so inconsistent! If only he'd been an uncle of Cleopatra VII, it would've worked out just fine...
Cleopatra VII is said to be the great-grandaughter of CLEOPA-PERINA, so PAH-PEH-RHEO is the great-great-granduncle of Cleo 7.
That was exactly what I was thinking! Well, he actually lived "2500 years ago", but then moved to Rome in gladiators time (many centuries later), and then again to Scotland (Caledonia), and this piece of info coincides with the short bio published on Tio Patinhas.
Seem improbable to me that he lived for centuries, especially because almost every character from the egyptian story were alive in the roman ones (HDL clones, DD-clone, the BB from egypt, Gyro ancestor).
Pluse the article says that Patinius followed Julio Cesar in his campaign to Caledonia. In Martina's Saga, the emperor Caivs Jvlivs Caesar Pippvs Avgvstvs tried to invade the Caledonia, but failed. So it isn't impossible to think that centuries later, another roman emperor tried to conquer the Caledonia, bringing with him another ancestor of the duck family (there have been a lot of stories of duck ancestors residing in Rome, not just "Storia e Gloria")
It's a shame that the chronology of Pah-Peh-Rheo/Petronivs Paperonivs is so inconsistent! If only he'd been an uncle of Cleopatra VII, it would've worked out just fine...
Cleopatra VII is said to be the great-grandaughter of CLEOPA-PERINA, so PAH-PEH-RHEO is the great-great-granduncle of Cleo 7.
Yes. I know, and I never said the opposite. What I'm saying is that the whole Pah-Peh-Rheo saga would have been consistent if only he'd been Cleo 7's uncle.
Seem improbable to me that he lived for centuries, especially because almost every character from the egyptian story were alive in the roman ones (HDL clones, DD-clone, the BB from egypt, Gyro ancestor).
Well, it's unlikely that a REAL person could live for so much time! Especially without aging, see the clones of HDL, who are always represented as kids. But it's a fact.
The Pah-Peh-Rheo chapter takes place "2500 years ago", but the Petronius one sure looks closer in time (eg. the Colosseo was built between 70 and 80 AD). Anyway, this time discrepancy is also noted in this volume, from which I took the info that they lived for centuries.
I believe Pitecus Patos is Oogbog McDuck from ZD 60-07-17. Fascinating how this article has found some lesser known ancestors, yet it leaves out the more famous ones!
I believe Pitecus Patos is Oogbog McDuck from ZD 60-07-17. Fascinating how this article has found some lesser known ancestors, yet it leaves out the more famous ones!
I suspect that the article had the intention of being an original creation and not a reference to "canonical" characters.
Last Edit: Dec 4, 2021 0:20:32 GMT by crazycatlord
Patrasco The Pirate's birth and death dates show him having lived almost 250 years. I would guess that was a misprint, and should read that he died in 1658, rather than 1858. Also, he is stated to have been a French Pirate. But Patrasco is a Portuguese name, rather than a French one. Why does he not have a French name?
Patrasco The Pirate's birth and death dates show him having lived almost 250 years. I would guess that was a misprint, and should read that he died in 1658, rather than 1858. Also, he is stated to have been a French Pirate. But Patrasco is a Portuguese name, rather than a French one. Why does he not have a French name?
It appears that the whole article was written in Portuguese, which would explain why he is identified with the Portuguese translation of his name. It's like how the Scottish McDuck is translated to "von Anka" in Swedish, despite "von Anka" decidedly not being a Scottish name.
Patrasco The Pirate's birth and death dates show him having lived almost 250 years. I would guess that was a misprint, and should read that he died in 1658, rather than 1858. Also, he is stated to have been a French Pirate. But Patrasco is a Portuguese name, rather than a French one. Why does he not have a French name?
It appears that the whole article was written in Portuguese, which would explain why he is identified with the Portuguese translation of his name. It's like how the Scottish McDuck is translated to "von Anka" in Swedish, despite "von Anka" decidedly not being a Scottish name.
I realised that. But, i think if we try to amalgamate ALL the different countries' Disney Comics publishing franchises' productions' stories' Duck universe invented characters into one single "Duck Family Tree", we should give the characters all their names in the languages of their countries of origin, according to the data supplied in their stories of origin, or first story of the character's introduction, given that ALL Duck characters don't come from Duckburg Calisota, especially those that are historical, from The Ducks' "Old countries", and/or lived in times before Calisota existed.
It appears that the whole article was written in Portuguese, which would explain why he is identified with the Portuguese translation of his name. It's like how the Scottish McDuck is translated to "von Anka" in Swedish, despite "von Anka" decidedly not being a Scottish name.
I realised that. But, i think if we try to amalgamate ALL the different countries' Disney Comics publishing franchises' productions' stories' Duck universe invented characters into one single "Duck Family Tree", we should give the characters all their names in the languages of their countries of origin, according to the data supplied in their stories of origin, or first story of the character's introduction, given that ALL Duck characters don't come from Duckburg Calisota, especially those that are historical, from The Ducks' "Old countries", and/or lived in times before Calisota existed.
I think that "Patrasco" appears in a S or D story, so he should already have another name.